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Run0, a systemd based alternative to sudo, announced

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466 points CoolCold | 7 comments | 29 Apr 24 23:59 UTC | HN request time: 1.089s | source | bottom
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fn-mote ◴[30 Apr 24 16:01 UTC] No.40212557[source]▶
Overall, this seems great.

However...

> [...] by default it will tint your terminal background in a reddish tone while you are operating with elevated privileges

?!! ouch ... seems orthogonal to the actual important parts.

Disclaimer: I didn't try it.

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NekkoDroid ◴[30 Apr 24 16:15 UTC] No.40212686[source]▶
I tried it a bit ago (when it was still called uid0, pre-release), I also wasn't a fan of the tinting.

I like the intent behind it, but some terminals already tint the header color when running sudo, I haven't tested if its done specifically for sudo or if its in a more generic way that could handle this as well.

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withinboredom ◴[30 Apr 24 16:39 UTC] No.40213006[source]▶
I can think of a number of things this tinting would break.
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1. lupire ◴[30 Apr 24 17:45 UTC] No.40213766[source]▶
Can you name any?
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2. dsr_ ◴[30 Apr 24 20:38 UTC] No.40216039[source]▶
The user's choice of color schemes.
3. shiomiru ◴[30 Apr 24 22:34 UTC] No.40217253[source]▶
If the program you're running prints red text, then you get red bgcolor with red fgcolor. Good luck reading that.

(Also, users with the wrong color scheme get that experience by default. Though that is a niche use case enough that I'd be surprised if systemd devs cared about it.)

4. withinboredom ◴[30 Apr 24 23:18 UTC] No.40217645[source]▶
Containers run with a tty attached but no console on the other end and then trying to read the logs, for starters. Additionally, as mentioned, conflicts with the user's color scheme or even the program's. Further, it's possible to do this without the help of run0, so I suspect users already doing that are going to get their colors messed up and be annoyed. For example, prod machines are usually red, and running as root on a prod machine is royal purple. If this is used, seeing a red background instead of a purple one is likely non-desirable.
5. snvzz ◴[01 May 24 11:43 UTC] No.40221935[source]▶
XMODEM and the like expect the terminal stream to not have garbage added by e.g. run0.

The terminal line should be clean between XMODEM at the terminal emulator and at the client end.

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6. throwaway7356 ◴[04 May 24 10:35 UTC] No.40256515[source]▶
Is xmodem still used outside of computer museums (including private computer museums)?
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7. snvzz ◴[05 May 24 07:25 UTC] No.40262973{3}[source]▶
It's e.g. still very popular with embedded development. One example: u-boot supports it.

It is the easiest way to upload an image to u-boot, as it does use the same terminal, thus there is no need to set up a secondary path; If you can talk with the u-boot CLI, you can also upload with xmodem.