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rcarmo ◴[] No.40207917[source]
I’m still waiting for a way to run my own apps on my own devices that doesn’t require re-signing them every week.
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1. Jleagle ◴[] No.40209148[source]
You can already do this, when you buy a car you own it and manufacturers don't stop you changing the car however you like.
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2. 76SlashDolphin ◴[] No.40209182[source]
False equivalence - a manual gearstick complicates the design of the car, making each unit cost more, while allowing sideloading is a one-time development cost with marginal maintenance costs. Also my car manufacturer doesn't get a 30% cut every time I fuel up because I use an automatic transmission. If it were like that I can assure you there would be a much bigger uproar than in this sideloading debate.
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3. shuckles ◴[] No.40209231[source]
It's hard to imagine how a working developer can believe that maintaining a platform where anyone can do anything has only upfront fixed costs. Apple spent about 4 years trying to change the contract of the pasteboard API to resolve unwanted data access concerns.
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4. ako ◴[] No.40209304[source]
But the government might require you to reapprove your car if you make big modifications to it.
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5. rambambram ◴[] No.40209470[source]
Please tell me you have at least 10+ people who plussed this remark!? The fact that some reactions don't get what you're saying worries me. Or maybe I don't understand, but explaining your jest is not my style.
6. user_7832 ◴[] No.40209733{3}[source]
Yes, because a car without safety features can kill people easily
7. user_7832 ◴[] No.40209747{3}[source]
> It's hard to imagine how a working developer can believe that maintaining a platform where anyone can do anything has only upfront fixed costs.

Isn't that how Google Play Store works? $25 once, for life. Presumably revenue is from IAPs and ads.

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8. shuckles ◴[] No.40211824{4}[source]
The Play Store has similar fees for IAP and sales as Apple. When people complain about Apple charging developers, it’s not about the $100 annual cost of the developer program.
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9. talldayo ◴[] No.40213577{5}[source]
They aren't complaining about the 30% either; they simply want a way to compete with what the App Store charges for. Android provides that, iOS does not.
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10. robertlagrant ◴[] No.40220739{6}[source]
There are people who complain about the 30% as well. As soon as the Microsoft Store was fully dead, Microsoft started saying that 30% for a store was too high.
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12. shuckles ◴[] No.40238153{6}[source]
iOS does provide that, as Spotify has built a huge business on iOS while paying Apple nothing.