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1. rcarmo ◴[] No.40207917[source]
I’m still waiting for a way to run my own apps on my own devices that doesn’t require re-signing them every week.
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3. 369548684892826 ◴[] No.40207998[source]
Well there is _one_ way but you're probably not going to like it
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4. rcarmo ◴[] No.40208022[source]
I already use Android devices as well, thanks.
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5. kandros ◴[] No.40208115[source]
That would be great
6. itake ◴[] No.40208226{3}[source]
My guess is their way is to buy a dev account, which allows you to install apps for up to 1 year.

https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/thread/91519

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7. rcarmo ◴[] No.40208248{4}[source]
Been there, done that, gave up because it’s not a justifiable expense for individual use. Wrote a couple of Android apps instead but can't really use them daily.
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8. no_time ◴[] No.40208368[source]
I'm still waiting for a toggle that lets me turn off mandatory notarization checking. And a way to tap on a .ipa file in the file browser and just being able to install it.

oh and a way to do all this without paying rent money to apple...

9. user_7832 ◴[] No.40208712{3}[source]
In the meantime I think Altserver works if you connect to a pc frequently enough
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10. rcarmo ◴[] No.40209117{4}[source]
Tried that. And other alternatives I don’t remember right now. Still a hassle I don’t want to get into (and I have something like seven Proxmox nodes in the house). I just have other priorities and wish that this was as easy to do as in Android.

The EU adjust doesn’t get that, and probably never will, because the bureaucrats are more worried about impact to their industry lobbyists than to their citizens.

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11. Jleagle ◴[] No.40209148[source]
You can already do this, when you buy a car you own it and manufacturers don't stop you changing the car however you like.
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12. 76SlashDolphin ◴[] No.40209182[source]
False equivalence - a manual gearstick complicates the design of the car, making each unit cost more, while allowing sideloading is a one-time development cost with marginal maintenance costs. Also my car manufacturer doesn't get a 30% cut every time I fuel up because I use an automatic transmission. If it were like that I can assure you there would be a much bigger uproar than in this sideloading debate.
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13. shuckles ◴[] No.40209231{3}[source]
It's hard to imagine how a working developer can believe that maintaining a platform where anyone can do anything has only upfront fixed costs. Apple spent about 4 years trying to change the contract of the pasteboard API to resolve unwanted data access concerns.
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14. ako ◴[] No.40209304{3}[source]
But the government might require you to reapprove your car if you make big modifications to it.
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15. rambambram ◴[] No.40209470[source]
Please tell me you have at least 10+ people who plussed this remark!? The fact that some reactions don't get what you're saying worries me. Or maybe I don't understand, but explaining your jest is not my style.
16. user_7832 ◴[] No.40209722{5}[source]
Ah that's disappointing, but as a fellow user I too found it too troublesome so I understand that.
17. user_7832 ◴[] No.40209733{4}[source]
Yes, because a car without safety features can kill people easily
18. user_7832 ◴[] No.40209747{4}[source]
> It's hard to imagine how a working developer can believe that maintaining a platform where anyone can do anything has only upfront fixed costs.

Isn't that how Google Play Store works? $25 once, for life. Presumably revenue is from IAPs and ads.

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19. fingerlocks ◴[] No.40210282{5}[source]
Presumably you work in tech.

Every employer I’ve ever had will reimburse my personal dev account fee as an educational expense. Have you tried asking?

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20. shuckles ◴[] No.40211824{5}[source]
The Play Store has similar fees for IAP and sales as Apple. When people complain about Apple charging developers, it’s not about the $100 annual cost of the developer program.
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21. talldayo ◴[] No.40213577{6}[source]
They aren't complaining about the 30% either; they simply want a way to compete with what the App Store charges for. Android provides that, iOS does not.
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22. rcarmo ◴[] No.40214398{6}[source]
I work at Microsoft. Next question :)
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23. fingerlocks ◴[] No.40215863{7}[source]
Then you definitely get a free apple developer account.
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24. itake ◴[] No.40219666{7}[source]
Apple (and other tech companies) offer free versions of products to students, but they don't require you be a full time student. I take a class once a year in a topic that I am interested in, which qualifies me for these free programs. Classes can be as cheap as $25 if you're in WA.

https://atlc.apple.com/downloads/AppleDeveloperProgram_FeeWa...

25. robertlagrant ◴[] No.40220739{7}[source]
There are people who complain about the 30% as well. As soon as the Microsoft Store was fully dead, Microsoft started saying that 30% for a store was too high.
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27. rcarmo ◴[] No.40221128{8}[source]
No, because I am not in any pertinent product line. And I would never use corporate resources for personal use.
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28. fingerlocks ◴[] No.40222228{9}[source]
We must have a different benefits package
29. shuckles ◴[] No.40238153{7}[source]
iOS does provide that, as Spotify has built a huge business on iOS while paying Apple nothing.