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Run0, a systemd based alternative to sudo, announced

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466 points CoolCold | 2 comments | 29 Apr 24 23:59 UTC | HN request time: 0.416s | source
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constantcrying ◴[30 Apr 24 07:23 UTC] No.40208131[source]▶
Why do they have to do this? This is really, really stupid.

My issue isn't even that someone tries to replace sudo. That may or may not be a completely fine thing to do, depending on the state of sudo and what improvements can be made. But what makes me really upset is this completely unexplainable need to make everything part of one particular init system. There is absolutely no reason to tie your new sudo replacement to systemd. Absolutely none.

This is a completely insane way to develop software, instead of creating a new piece of software in a separate project they will force all their projects simultaneously onto all their users for absolutely no reason.

I am very glad to have jumped ship from systemd. It is particularly bad software created by a team of people who engage in very bad practices and a totally unhealthy view of software in general.

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1. hxelk1 ◴[30 Apr 24 07:47 UTC] No.40208283[source]▶
I've spent a lot of time studying systemd alternatives. I believe the overall best design is Skarnet's s6, and that too includes a sudo-like program:

https://skarnet.org/software/s6/s6-sudo.html

I was very surprised when I learned about it, but it does make sense (for s6 at least).

> There is absolutely no reason to tie your new sudo replacement to systemd. Absolutely none.

With s6, the idea is to replace a SUID binary with an IPC mechanism. That does make sense, since (parts of) the init system need to be running as root.

> I am very glad to have jumped ship from systemd.

All that aside, so am I.

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2. deng ◴[30 Apr 24 08:12 UTC] No.40208432[source]▶
> With s6, the idea is to replace a SUID binary with an IPC mechanism. That does make sense, since (parts of) the init system need to be running as root.

Same idea with systemd-run.