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AMD funded a drop-in CUDA implementation built on ROCm: It's now open-source

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1045 points mfiguiere | 7 comments | 12 Feb 24 14:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.722s | source | bottom
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lambdaone ◴[12 Feb 24 15:32 UTC] No.39345937[source]▶
It seems to me that AMD are crazy to stop funding this. CUDA-on-ROCm breaks NVIDIA's moat, and would also act as a disincentive for NVIDIA to make breaking changes to CUDA; what more could AMD want?

When you're #1, you can go all-in on your own proprietary stack, knowing that network effects will drive your market share higher and higher for you for free.

When you're #2, you need to follow de-facto standards and work on creating and following truly open ones, and try to compete on actual value, rather than rent-seeking. AMD of all companies should know this.

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1. RamRodification ◴[12 Feb 24 15:44 UTC] No.39346130[source]▶
> and would also act as a disincentive for NVIDIA to make breaking changes to CUDA

I don't know about that. You could kinda argue the opposite. "We improved CUDA. Oh it stopped working for you on AMD hardware? Too bad. Buy Nvidia next time"

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2. mnau ◴[12 Feb 24 16:14 UTC] No.39346591[source]▶
Also known as OS/2: Redux strategy.
3. freeone3000 ◴[12 Feb 24 16:30 UTC] No.39346820[source]▶
Most CUDA applications do not target the newest CUDA version! Despite 12.1 being out, lots of code still targets 7 or 8 to support old NVIDIA cards. Similar support for AMD isn’t unthinkable (but a rewrite to rocm would be).
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5. outside415 ◴[12 Feb 24 18:15 UTC] No.39348275[source]▶
NVIDIA is about ecosystem plays, they have no interest in sabotage or anti competition plays. Leave that to apple and google and their dumb app stores and mobile OSs.
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6. 0x457 ◴[12 Feb 24 18:46 UTC] No.39348669[source]▶
> NVIDIA is about ecosystem plays, they have no interest in sabotage or anti competition plays.

Are we talking about the same NVIDIA? The entire Nvidia GPU strategy for nvidia is - make a feature (or find existing one) that performs better on their cards - pay developers to use (and sometimes misuse) it extensively.

7. lambdaone ◴[12 Feb 24 23:03 UTC] No.39351779[source]▶
That's exactly the point I was making above.