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voisin ◴[] No.39143281[source]
Perhaps I am unlearned in this area but I am unclear why the Jewish state, after its people experienced the atrocities of World War II, would act in this manner toward the Palestinians. Can anyone shed light on this? I understand completely the need to rid the world of Hamas terrorists, but in the process they have shown a reckless disregard (to put it mildly) for Palestinian people and their wellbeing.
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AdamH12113 ◴[] No.39146736[source]
> ... the Jewish state... its people experienced...

This is your error. States and peoples are not unitary entities with a single coherent outlook and will. The vast majority of the Israeli population is far too young to have directly experienced the Holocaust, which ended 80 years ago. There are plenty of people in Israel who do not want to commit atrocities against Palestinians. There are also people who feel that they have a (literally) god-given right to occupy the territories where Palestinians currently live. If you think of Benjamin Netanyahu's cabinet as being basically the same people who survived Nazi concentration camps in World War 2, then nothing Israel is doing in 2024 will make much sense.

To my mind, Israel's actions toward Palestinians (both in Gaza and the West Bank) are powerful evidence that nationalism inherently leads to atrocity no matter who's involved. If the cultural memory of being targeted by the Holocaust won't stop an ethno-state from setting up an apartheid regime, what will?

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genman[dead post] ◴[] No.39150089[source]
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Symbiote ◴[] No.39150273[source]
If we're going back, you should also remember the attacks Israel has made against Palestine since 1948.
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genman[dead post] ◴[] No.39150876[source]
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dang ◴[] No.39151357[source]
You've been posting flamewar comments to this thread, which is against HN's rules and particularly against the intended spirit that I tried to express at the top of the thread. Please stop doing this. The thread is hellish enough as it is, and posts like these put it on the fast track to far worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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1. genman ◴[] No.39151370[source]
Then kindly please eliminate racist and antisemitic comments so people don't have to respond to them. Especially the ones that spread false information and hatred like the comment I was responding to.
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2. dang ◴[] No.39151414[source]
I'm trying to make the moderation calls as even-handed as possible and have scolded many accounts (and banned some) who are taking the opposite position from yours—including the commenter who was just arguing with you here.

That doesn't change the fact that you (I don't mean you personally, but everyone commenting) need to follow the rules and post in the intended spirit regardless of what others are doing.

Everyone always feels like the other started it and did worse; if you take that as a basis, all we end up with is a downward spiral, and that's what we're trying to avoid here.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

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3. genman ◴[] No.39151467[source]
Thank you. I'll try to do my best.