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voisin ◴[] No.39143281[source]
Perhaps I am unlearned in this area but I am unclear why the Jewish state, after its people experienced the atrocities of World War II, would act in this manner toward the Palestinians. Can anyone shed light on this? I understand completely the need to rid the world of Hamas terrorists, but in the process they have shown a reckless disregard (to put it mildly) for Palestinian people and their wellbeing.
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smoothjazz ◴[] No.39143315[source]
It's not about religion, it's about occupation. Zionists got permission to occupy the land from the British with The Balfour Declaration then started the invasion in full in 1948 with Nakba. When you occupy someone's land, there can never be peace until they get their land back or are fully exterminated or controlled militarily. This is why colonization most often leads to genocide or permanent apartheid.
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voisin ◴[] No.39143657[source]
I have read a bit about this and I understand the explanation but I still don’t understand how a group of people subject to genocide can turn around and a few generations later be behaving in many (obviously not all) of the same ways toward another group. I would think that if anything the Israeli people would have some empathy and try to find a two state solution that exists in peace.
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gizmo ◴[] No.39146468[source]
Because propaganda works everywhere. Teach people that “the other” seeks their destruction and then reframe any violence as tragically necessary self-defense.

The history books don’t mention the Nakba and civilian casualty statistics in Gaza are dismissed as Hamas propaganda.

And I don’t mean to suggest Israel is unique in this. There are many parallels for instance with American “world police” patriotism.

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1. sebzim4500 ◴[] No.39148692[source]
>Teach people that “the other” seeks their destruction

I think recent events have taught this to Israel without any help from propagandists.