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ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire

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Animats ◴[26 Jan 24 19:10 UTC] No.39146689[source]▶
There is another player. China is interested in resolving the Gaza conflict.[1] China's position is that, since the existing world order, the International Court of Justice and the United States, can't resolve this, China should become involved. Chinese container shipping lines COSCO and OOCL have suspended trade with Israel. China has already provided some aid to Gaza.[2]

Gaza has a sizable coastline, and China has a large number of amphibious assault ships available. They can defend themselves against Israel air attacks. If China decides to send humanitarian relief to Gaza, China can do it, and Israel can't stop them.[3] China would look like the good guys. Which their leadership knows.

[1] https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/chinas-game-gaza

[2] https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-wa...

[3] https://www.newsweek.com/china-amphibious-assault-ship-type-...

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biorach ◴[26 Jan 24 19:18 UTC] No.39146826[source]▶
This seems far fetched given China's traditional insistence that countries' internal affairs should not be subject to external overview, it's undeclared stance that subject populations should be suppressed by whatever means necessary and the still marginal effect of the conflict on its trade.
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shkkmo ◴[26 Jan 24 19:29 UTC] No.39146973[source]▶
I don't see how military operations outside of a country's legal territory is considered an "internal affair"
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falserum ◴[26 Jan 24 19:33 UTC] No.39147028[source]▶
Gaza is kind of/maybe/sometimes/by some considered part ofisrael.
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shkkmo ◴[26 Jan 24 19:46 UTC] No.39147205[source]▶
No, it isn't.

China officially recognizes the state of Palestine.

The Isreali supreme court itself has determined that Gaza is not Isreali territory.

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1. Sporktacular ◴[26 Jan 24 20:51 UTC] No.39148129[source]▶
Then it has no legitimate say over the affairs of Gaza.

An Israeli court can say what it wants, but can't have it both ways.

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2. shkkmo ◴[26 Jan 24 21:43 UTC] No.39148918[source]▶
That's nonsense.

The supreme court has jurisdiction over actions taken by the Isreali government, regardless of where those actions take place.

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3. Sporktacular ◴[27 Jan 24 00:11 UTC] No.39150736[source]▶
It adjudicates the actions taken by all Israelis. Its jurisdiction should stop at the border it recognises. But it continues however to award land outside Israeli territory to Israeli citizens by ruling on the status of settlements. That is extra-territoriality.