It isn't war. War is when two nation states fight.
This is shooting fish in a barrel with a full on propaganda campaign attached.
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This is shooting fish in a barrel with a full on propaganda campaign attached.
Attacks and land theft on West Bank Palestinians are at a record high too. This will only end with the creation of a viable Palestinian state.
"This is war, there will be loss of life" is such a callous way to dismiss the disproportionality of this conflict.
Also, I'm sure the Ukraine war would've ended if Ukraine would've just surrendered, what's your point? You realize that you could say that for basically every war ever, and that the enemy not surrendering doesn't allow you to commit war crimes? That's... literally the point.
https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/collect...
Why is disproportionality meaningful at all? Clearly Israel is under attack. They have full right to subdue those attacks through all means necessary. I would hope every government provides the same for their people (and it is so easy to criticize Israel with all of us coming from countries that do protect our safety). Unfortunately Hamas has no regard for Palestinian lives, the best possible outcome for the Palestinians is Hamas giving up.
No, it would not. There would still be 400,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank. Palestinians in the West Bank would still live under occupation. Do you think that situation will not also reach a boiling point and end in ethnic cleansing as fascist rhetoric in Israel increases?
While Israel may not have had a military presence since 2006, their control over the region did not do the same.
For one, Israel does not control the Gaza border with Egypt (which shocker... Egypt does). Israel has provided a ton of humanitarian aid to Gaza over the years including water and electricity but they do not control their water or electricity (kinda hard to do that or even claim that is being done since they don't have a presence in the country).
And no they DO NOT have full right to subdue those attacks through all means necessary. There are laws to warfare. Dropping large bombs on a densely populated area of civilians is a breach of those laws. Find another way to get rid of Hamas but show respect civilian life.
You're correct. But Palestine has no Egyptian consulate, so Palestinians are not able to secure a Visa of any kind to travel to Egypt. Israel does have an Egyptian consulate though, but Palestinians need permission from Israel to enter.
>Israel has provided...water and electricity but they do not control their water or electricity.
The Coastal Aquifer is the only groundwater source of water in the Gaza Strip. Gaza is at the end of the basin, however, Israel has built multiple deep wells and, essentially, extracts all water from the aquifer before it reaches Gaza's border. Israel then sells that water to Gaza. As well, Israel does not allow the West Bank to transport water to Gaza.
While Israel does not entirely control electricity within Gaza, Israel does supply Gaza with around 20% or so of their power and restricts fuel entry into Gaza which powers Gaza's only power station. At the start of this recent war, Israel has turned off their supply of power to Gaza and has not allowed fuel to be delivered to Gaza. Effectively turning off all power in Gaza. What power remains is usually through generators or solar power.
While the actions Israel has taken regarding power supplies to Gaza can be taken as a military decision to cut power to Hamas, we cannot overlook how this affects the 2 million civilians that also live in Gaza who have no say in this war.
> https://www.jurist.org/features/2023/09/06/un-special-rappor...
> they do not control their water or electricity (kinda hard to do that or even claim that is being done since they don't have a presence in the country).
This is a stunningly false statement. I honestly don't know how anyone could believe it.
I specifically think of Japan and Germany in World War II. To a lesser extent, I think of the American South in the American Civil War.
My thinking here is greatly influenced by this fascinating book.
this is all playing house. a real entity (like the US, UK, Australia, Urugay etc do) is participating in stuff like this... would you still hold the Taliban to the same standard? They are running Afghanistan but ... are they the real deal? No, lol.
You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You can’t claim Israel is providing humanitarian aid while it is also restricting their ability to find solutions that no longer require their aid.
That's both Hamas's and Israel's justification precisely. The question is who is right.
"take it to the people"
Targeting the population is illegal and immoral.