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mgreg ◴[] No.39121867[source]
Unsurprising but disappointing none-the-less. Let’s just try to learn from it.

It’s popular in the AI space to claim altruism and openness; OpenAI, Anthropic and xAI (the new Musk one) all have a funky governance structure because they want to be a public good. The challenge is once any of these (or others) start to gain enough traction that they are seen as having a good chance at reaping billions in profits things change.

And it’s not just AI companies and this isn’t new. This is art of human nature and will always be.

We should be putting more emphasis and attention on truly open AI models (open training data, training source code & hyperparameters, model source code, weights) so the benefits of AI accrue to the public and not just a few companies.

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AndrewKemendo ◴[] No.39122672[source]
The public can’t benefit from any of this stuff because they’re not in the infrastructure loop to actually assign value.

The only way the public would benefit from these organizations is if the public are owners and there isn’t really a mechanism for that here anywhere.

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1. mikeg8 ◴[] No.39125124[source]
I strongly disagree, and think this statement is basically completely wrong. I am part of the public and I'm benefitting tremendously from the product openAI has built. I would be very unhappy if my access to chatgpt or copilot was suddenly restricted. I extract tons of value (perceieved) from their product, and they receive some value in return from my subscription. Its a win-win.
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2. AndrewKemendo ◴[] No.39126104[source]
You’re not “the public” you’re a private citizen paying a private org for services

“The public” in this case refers to all people irrespective of their ability to pay