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glenjamin ◴[] No.38458643[source]
I once attended an internal presentation while working for the UK's Ministry of Justice.

A large number of contraband mobile phones had been confiscated, and a team performed some data analysis to see what they'd been used for.

The overwhelming conclusion was that the phones had been primarily used to keen in touch with family.

There's also a whole bunch of research that showed that maintaining ties with the outside world while incarcerated led to reduced rates of reoffending (and the inverse was also true - isolation led to increased rates).

Allowing free phone calls in and out of prisons makes a lot of sense both socially and economically.

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up2isomorphism ◴[] No.38459329[source]
There is no logic that a good thing should be free. In fact it should likely cost prisoners something if it is good for them. Just like breakfast is good for you but it is not free.
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caboteria ◴[] No.38459615[source]
At the same time, there's no logic that says that a good thing should cost money. A walk in the woods is good for you, should we charge for that?
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1. up2isomorphism ◴[] No.38459938{3}[source]
The lack of basic logic training in the responses are hilarious, and some of them can’t even notice there is a damn “likely” there.

The fact that A does not imply B, and A often implies not B does not mean that you cannot find an example that show both A and B. But it is sufficient to weaken the argument to support B using A.