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nmstoker ◴[] No.37966119[source]
I get the point, and with irresponsible parties (as is fairly widespread in most companies) there's a real risk here.

However the analogy of a meteorologist seems poor as that job is focused on predicting the weather - the typical dev is focused on operating in that weather and comparatively inexperienced in predicting with great accuracy.

What's frustrating as a stakeholder is ludicrous estimates, which don't even start with the work time, let alone end up with a realistic duration. This is particularly true (and frustrating) at the micro task level, an area I'm often requiring items that take at most 30 minute to complete and are usually things I could do in less time if only I had access... You get a weeks long estimate back, even when it's incurring a serious cost in production and falls in the drop everything category (which obviously one wants to avoid but does come up). I get that none of those 30 minute tasks will take 30 minute alone as there's testing and documentation to add but the more bs level the estimate, the more it damages the trust relationship.

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Aeolun ◴[] No.37966150[source]
To some extend, but there’s tasks that I could do in 30m in a company with 15 employees that I have still not accomplished after 2 months in our 15k employee enterprise.
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1. Veuxdo ◴[] No.37966920[source]
Linear scaling is more the exception than the rule, no? And it not just for "tech" either: it's unlikely you could learn the names of 15k employees in 2 months, for instance.