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The midwit home

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imiric ◴[] No.37860901[source]
> Hauling your body across the room just to flip a switch is absurd.

Maybe this is a sign of getting old, but I never got why this is such a hassle. Light switches are within reach when you enter a room. Once you're inside, you rarely have to touch them again until you exit. On the rare ocasion that I do, maybe it's also a good time to stretch my legs, take a bathroom break, or get a snack.

Is that such a major inconvenience that we have to overengineer solutions using expensive and complicated ecosystems of gadgets and software?

Maybe I'm in the minority with this line of thinking on this forum, but I never got the smart home appeal. I want devices that I can control directly, not those that will interpret or anticipate what I want to do and, more than likely, cause frustration rather than satisfaction. The switch is the ubiquitous and perfect mechanism of control, especially if it's directly wired to a simple state machine, and not layers of indirection and "protocols". I wish more devices used dumb switches, not less.

Don't get me started on the motion sensing lights TFA mentions. I curse the times I've entered a public bathroom that has these, only for the light to go off at the most inopportune moment. Don't want to use a physical switch because of sanitation? That's fine, but cheap and low-power LED lights exist for them to be always on during your service hours. You won't save much having the light turn off, and potentially annoy your customers.

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oldandboring ◴[] No.37860999[source]
The light switch in our primary bedroom is, as you describe, within reach when you enter the room. It controls a switched outlet near the bed that has a lamp plugged into it. When it comes time to turn out the light to go to sleep, you have two non-ideal choices: get up from bed to turn the lamp off using the switch near the door, or stay in bed and turn the lamp off manually, meaning the next time you operate the wall switch the lamp won't turn on (unless you remembered to turn the lamp back on in the morning).
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davidw ◴[] No.37861225[source]
I have a lamp right next to my bed that I also turn on as part of my going to bed routine, so that I turn off the room light, get in bed, and still have light.

This is a lot cheaper than a home automation system.

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1. flerchin ◴[] No.37861449[source]
1. Enter bedroom

2. Turn on primary light

3. Walk to bedside lamp and turn it on

4. Walk back to primary light and turn it off

5. Walk back to bed and climb in

6. Turn off beside lamp.

It's not _the worst_, but it is toil.

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2. skybrian ◴[] No.37861553[source]
On the bright side, it's a few more steps on your pedometer.
3. iisan7 ◴[] No.37862156[source]
3-way switches are the best solution here. Switch the bedside lamp on from the main switch by the door, and then off again from a second switch at the bedside. Many stairways are like this: you can control the lights from the switches at the bottom or the top of the stairs.
4. Cerium ◴[] No.37862749[source]
It is possible to work these steps into your routine.

1. Enter bedroom 2. Turn on primary light 3. Do getting ready for bed activities. 4. Turn on lamp when convenient 5. Use bathroom 6. Turn off main lights 7. Get in bed and turn off the lamp.

5. stonogo ◴[] No.37863880[source]
This was solved in the 90s. The actual lightswitch can be mounted in a wireless remote that sockets into the switch plate by the door. You just take the switch with you to the bedside table. In the morning when you leave the room you socket it back into the switch plate.
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6. elzbardico ◴[] No.37865865[source]
This was solved probably around 1880: 3-way switches
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7. brewdad ◴[] No.37866607{3}[source]
My stairway/upstairs lights are on a 4-way switch. I’ve never researched it but presumably one could build out a 5-way or 6-way switch by adding more switches wired the “middle” way. I’m sure there’s a term for the two wire switch in the middle but I’m no electrician.
8. LeafItAlone ◴[] No.37874813{3}[source]
The same cost to get an electrician out to wire in one 3-way switch paid for an apartment of smart (plug-in) outlets for me. And since it’s a rental, I would not have been allowed to actually add the 3-way switch.
9. stonogo ◴[] No.37876384{3}[source]
Have you seen a room wired with a second lightswitch specifically for the bedside? I'd be interested to know if anyone's done this.