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EoinB ◴[] No.37271452[source]
I was born and educated in Scotland, worked in the UK for a decade or so, then moved to the US and worked for big tech for 15 years while living in the US and becoming a US citizen. I then chose to move back to Scotland, where I continue to work for the same US big tech company but get paid UK wages with UK employment benefits. So, I've lived significant portions of my life on both sides.

Here in the UK, I get 29 days paid vacation plus ten or so (not sure) public holidays. If I am sick on vacation, I can claim those days as sick days and regain the vacation time. Edit: plus, my contract is for 35 hours per week whereas in the US it was 40.

Regarding money, I am doing the same job that I was doing in the US (same team etc.) but took, what was at the time, a 25% reduction in gross salary. However, by the time you add in the higher taxes, my take home pay (from my salary - my stock awards are the same) is about 40% lower than it was in the US.

Now, I am nearing 50, my corporate career progression is plateauing/settled (by choice, btw) and I have a teenage daughter. A big reason for coming back to Scotland was so she could be educated here and experience European life and culture during her formative years. The other big reason was to have a better work-life balance. I have so much non-work time here, I can actually pursue non-work interests; whereas my US work colleagues seem to always be Slacking and "checking in" while they are on vacation; never seeming to have an identity beyond their job.

I have also lost 13kg (29lb) in weight.

For us techies, the US is the place to get rich, but, in my experience, there are significant lifestyle compromises that you must make in order to do so.

Edit: I was curious about the numbers, so I did a little arithmetic to work out the hourly wage I earned in the US and the hourly wage I earn here in the UK, taking into consideration the vacation days.

My UK gross per hour wage is between 11% and 15% lower than my US salary, depending on the (volatile) exchange rate. Of course, UK tax is much higher (my marginal rate is 49%). So, the difference in take-home pay is more than that.

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glimshe ◴[] No.37272128[source]
I work in a major tech company and never check email outside work hours, which I cap at 40 hours a week. I never work weekends, never check work during weekends or vacations.

I make much more than my European peers, have a better car, better weather and bigger house. I have 25 days of paid vacation. While this is better than the US average, I don't know a single person in my friends group wanting to trade the US for Europe, including my Europe-born friends.

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1. auselen ◴[] No.37272696[source]
Then you have SOs, kids.. do they have the same standards, and is that guaranteed to stay?
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2. glimshe ◴[] No.37273192[source]
Nothing in life is guaranteed. I have contingencies in place to withstand life events, but there is no place on Earth where you can guarantee your future.
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3. auselen ◴[] No.37273357[source]
it helps with everything when there are lots of safety nets in society…
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4. Longhanks ◴[] No.37273735{3}[source]
That’s just offloading the responsibility to the public / to the government.
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5. auselen ◴[] No.37273790{4}[source]
Not everyone equally able.

It takes a village to raise a child.

I wonder how much of is about with what kind of ideologies you grow up with.

6. sn9 ◴[] No.37277008{4}[source]
Do you go through life without insurance?
7. danaris ◴[] No.37277232{4}[source]
Yes; that's what we call "civilized society".

Humans take care of each other. It's what makes us strong.