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lionkor ◴[] No.37271090[source]
> While the average American is lucky to get 11 vacation days

WHAT? Does that count sick days as well, or is that a myth?

Here in Germany, I get 30 vacation days per calendar year, plus any sick days, and thats fairly normal.

Edit: Sure the absolute salaries here are lower, but the cost of living is vastly different and the social support structures and healthcare are different, too. That should definitely be kept in mind.

I dont need to drive my car a lot, because my city is fully walkable/bikeable, and thats not a super rare thing here. There are a lot of factors.

I feel vacation days are just a basic requirement for happiness, whereas being rich maybe isnt

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cloogshicer ◴[] No.37271175[source]
Exactly.

I live in a big European city. You basically don't need a car - pretty much anything within the city is reachable in about 30min, and public transit is comfy.

Also, I have a public transit ticket that allows me to travel the entire country for a year, which only cost about 1000€.

Yes, salaries are lower, but I also don't have to save anything to get my kids through university, or keep emergency funds for health issues.

Also, I can't just get fired without cause. And if I do get laid off, I have 3 months of grace period, plus potentially years of unemployment money.

Also, the government even pays for certain courses so I can find employment again.

The social system in Europe is amazing.

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quonn ◴[] No.37271219[source]
Parents have to pay for university in Europe unless they are poor. And while there are no fees, the costs are typically between 30k and 100k per child.

edit: In Germany. I‘m German and I have studied there. I should know.

edit2: Someone said this comment could be interpreted as the cost per year which is not the case. This is the total cost.

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1. n_ary ◴[] No.37271311[source]
> edit: In Germany. I‘m German and I have studied there. I should know.

I am also there and I didn't pay any monies anywhere for university(unless you mean fancy private university?). All state universities are free and we only paid some misely amount every 6 months for the city-ticket(free access to all public transport in the city, cool stuff). Also, state pays each child ~125/month until they are 25.

I believe you are in some different parallel universe entirely O.o

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2. mmmmmbop ◴[] No.37271337[source]
I'm sure that the GP comment referred to total costs, not just tuition. Cost of living in a German city for 5-6 years can definitely add up to 30k-100k. Note that the costs of attendance typically cited by US schools similarly include cost of living, e.g. housing and meals (e.g. [0]).

[0] https://sfs.mit.edu/undergraduate-students/the-cost-of-atten...

3. quonn ◴[] No.37271504[source]
Good for you. I paid around 70 per month and it only covered the subway network between my apartment and the university. Or whole network for 85. That‘s not exactly cheap.
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4. rpadovani ◴[] No.37271662[source]
Beginning 2013, there is the semester tickets for students, which is twenty euros per month.

Before that, 70 euros? Where were you living, Freising?

Two external rings were around 50 euros at the time, and many students rent inside the (old) 4 inner rings, or the first external one if you study in Garching

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5. quonn ◴[] No.37275420{3}[source]
Munich. And TUM is at Garching. And I paid 70. I know what I paid. It was 70 every month, year after year.
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6. rpadovani ◴[] No.37276739{4}[source]
I believe you paid 70 euros. I just wanted to highlight that, beginning 2013, that's not a problem anymore thanks to the semesterticket.