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015a ◴[] No.36995730[source]
> But before you declare this a triumphant moment for desktop Linux, it's important to note that some of these Linux users are not, in fact, using Steam on a desktop. The Linux version "SteamOS Holo" 64-bit is the most popular reported, at just over 42 percent of the Linux slice of pie. That indicates that a huge portion of these Linux users are actually playing on Valve's Steam Deck portable, which runs Linux.

There's such a deep seeded, systemic bias against linux that it actually can never win, to any degree or magnitude, because the moment it starts winning we just move the goal-posts for the flimsiest of reasons to ensure it can't quite claim that victory.

Linux is obviously and clearly the most popular operating system kernel on the planet. Oh, no, that's no good a measure, servers are messy, let's refine it to most popular consumer operating system kernel? Oh... it, could also reasonably claim that title? No no, no Android, that doesn't count. Nope, No Chrome OS either, you can't have that, that's, well, that is linux, but its not. Just nice, pure, desktop linux, yes, perfect, arch linux, kde desktop, that'll never trend up and thus is the perfect new-new definition of desktop linu--wait hold up, I'm getting word this is, not possible, its actually SteamOS? Nope, kill it, that's not desktop linux either, kill it.

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fvdessen ◴[] No.36997165[source]
The reason why we tend to only consider 'real' desktop OS such as Windows or OSX is that those are the generalists platform where content is produced and work is being done. The others are special purpose devices
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metaphor ◴[] No.36997311[source]
...never mind that the Steam Deck has an entirely capable desktop mode[1], and people are indeed using it[2].

[1] https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/671A-4453-E8D2-32...

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/12sgnw7/what_do_...

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Etherlord87 ◴[] No.36997769{3}[source]
Can I launch Blender there and will the experience be comfortable?
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andybak ◴[] No.36998119{4}[source]
Yes assuming you use an external keyboard, mouse and probably a display (unless your eyesight is a lot better than mine).

You could probably get away without the mouse if you're ok with touchpad usage. But YMMV.

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1. Etherlord87 ◴[] No.36998475{5}[source]
Yes, but similarly you could connect a computer screen to a server. The idea behind separating desktop computers is, as mentioned above, that it is a particular platform a lot of us are interested in. I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck.
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2. metaphor ◴[] No.36998902[source]
> I imagine neither me or you are typing these comments on a server or a Steam Deck.

Stop imagining. I'm quite literally mooching around in bed posting this from Firefox on a Steam Deck in desktop mode docked to my bedroom TV. This[1] isn't your father's Oldsmobile.

[1] https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck/#SaleSection_24468

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3. andybak ◴[] No.36999166[source]
I think you're replying to the wrong person. I was merely commenting on the viability of running Blender on a Steam Deck.
4. an-unknown ◴[] No.36999256[source]
Yes, but if you connect a computer screen to a server, you'll notice that servers usually don't have GPUs for anything beyond "show a 1280x1024 console screen". Unlike a server, the Steam Deck is literally marketed as a device that can be used as a "desktop computer", that's the entire purpose of the optional USB-C dock.
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5. darkwater ◴[] No.36999563[source]
Or connect external monitor, mouse and keyboard to a laptop... So, shouldn't laptops count as "desktop computer" either?
6. lolinder ◴[] No.36999793[source]
You can't use Blender on a desktop PC that has no monitor attached, nor would it be comfortable to do so on a 13 inch laptop. Is my desktop computer also not a desktop computer because it's not useful until hooked up?
7. Etherlord87 ◴[] No.37001054[source]
OK but I wasn't speaking to you. It's not surprising to me, that out of maybe hundreds of people reading our conversation, there was one using Steamdeck in an unusual way. But I imagine andybak wasn't, the argument being, the chance of him doing so is very low, because that's not how most people use Steamdecks, or from another perspective, I imagine most people commenting on Hackernews do so from a laptop or a desktop, and a mobile phone on the third place.
8. Etherlord87 ◴[] No.37001114[source]
This is a fair argument, Steam deck really is (much) closer to desktops than other handhelds.