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mkatx ◴[] No.36994570[source]
Steam gets all my gaming budget, as I really try to stick to Linux.

If it ain't on steam, I don't play it, and they don't get my money.

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andrewmcwatters ◴[] No.36994692[source]
It’s sad to me that you and many others have this opinion, which is fine, but Valve takes a significant tax from small companies while gamers, a cheap demographic, complain about the price of games.

Games don’t need to be on Steam to be good.

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doix ◴[] No.36995066[source]
I won't buy a non-native Linux game that's not on steam. The steam Linux stuff "just works", I don't need to mess around with wine/wintricks/proton or different wrappers like lutris.

If the developers have a native Linux version that I can buy directly from their site, I might do that as well to show my support (but still buy it on steam since it's just too convenient).

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badsectoracula ◴[] No.36995229[source]
I am on Linux and i vastly prefer DRM-free stores as i keep my own offline backups of games (and other software) i buy. As a result i have almost 1000 games from GOG, Zoom Platform and other non-Steam places.

In my experience 99% of the games work out of the box with wine-staging, DXVK and VKD3D-Proton (which works with wine-staging just fine). No need to mess around with anything, just install wine-string, install DXVK and VKD3D-Proton and you are ready to run pretty much everything with "wine installername.exe" or "wine gamebinary.exe".

I never had to use winetricks, lutris or anything of the sort.

I also play games on Steam and even got a Steam Deck (on which i also play games i got outside from Steam), so it isn't like i am Valve-free, but you certainly do not have to tie yourself on Steam if you are gaming on Linux nor your experience will be any worse.

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dleslie ◴[] No.36995412[source]
> In my experience 99% of the games work out of the box with wine-staging, DXVK and VKD3D-Proton (which works with wine-staging just fine). No need to mess around with anything, just install wine-string, install DXVK and VKD3D-Proton and you are ready to run pretty much everything with "wine installername.exe" or "wine gamebinary.exe".

That sounds like a fair bit of domain-specific knowledge driven steps that could quickly got awry and lead a novice deep into frustration.

Compared to... Clicking the Play button in the Steam launcher, ideally from your Steam Deck.

It's miles apart.

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1. badsectoracula ◴[] No.36995457[source]
It is OS-specific (not domain specific, i just know Linux) knowledge indeed but i'd assume someone who sticks with Linux, comments on HN and would prefer to use DRM-free games (and software) wouldn't have an issue installing a couple of programs. And really, also having Windows knowledge, aside from installing wine-staging, the process for getting DXVK and VKD3D-Proton working is similar to what you'd do on Windows to get buggy games to work (in fact some people do use DXVK with Windows[0]).

It isn't something i'd recommend to some random gamer (though judging from what i've seen people do with their Steam Decks i wouldn't underestimate gamers' technical abilities).

[0] like, say, me :-P. In 2020 i used Windows as my main OS after trying to switch to Linux as my main OS in 2018 but having some issues with games, but then i ended up having some visual glitches in a game that were fixed by throwing in DXVK. At that point i thought that this might actually be a sign that gaming on Linux now works fine - and indeed it did and since then i've being using it as my practically only OS because i can both work and game on it without feeling like i'm missing anything.

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2. di4na ◴[] No.36995673[source]
You do realise that for most people they do not get buggy games to run.

If it is buggy, they play something else. There is a wide enough offer for this strategy to work really well.

Being driven to install tools to get it to run is an exceptional behaviour and a lot of hassle for anyone, windows or Linux. Nearly noone does that.

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3. johnnyanmac ◴[] No.36996097[source]
Never stopped Bethesda. Heck, they get free labor out of fans fixing their bugs.
4. badsectoracula ◴[] No.37008260[source]
> You do realise that for most people they do not get buggy games to run.

I don't know what most people do as i am not most people, but i already addressed my expectations and assumptions on the first paragraph of the comment you replied to.