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Apple already shipped attestation on the web, and we barely noticed

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596 points pimterry | 1 comments | 25 Jul 23 14:10 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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modeless ◴[25 Jul 23 16:30 UTC] No.36864935[source]▶
Yesterday, the sentiment on Google's early proposal was "company breakups start to make a lot of sense", "Go f yourself, Google", "It's maddening and saddening", "[the people involved] reputations are fully gone from this".

Today it turns out Apple not only proposed but implemented and shipped the actual feature last year. "It could be an interesting opportunity to reboot a few long-lost dreams". "I kind of get both sides here". "I guess I personally come down to leaving this turned on in Safari for now, and seeing what happens". Granted, the overall sentiment is still negative but the difference in tone is stark. The reality distortion field is alive and well, folks.

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acedTrex ◴[25 Jul 23 16:43 UTC] No.36865203[source]▶
They aren't implementing it as a common browser standard
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modeless ◴[25 Jul 23 16:45 UTC] No.36865230[source]▶
They shipped it in their browser without intending to standardize it? That's even worse! If true.
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isodev ◴[25 Jul 23 18:09 UTC] No.36866789[source]▶
Why is it worst? Isn’t the whole point of an open web to be able to have different agents with different capabilities?
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progbits ◴[25 Jul 23 18:16 UTC] No.36866894[source]▶
No, it's to have multiple independent implementations of the same standards.

I can't tell if you are joking, what sort of fragmented hell do you want?

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1. zdragnar ◴[25 Jul 23 18:25 UTC] No.36867063[source]▶
Since when have the standards been finalized before the early implementation? Much of the web has been browsers trying things out and seeing if they can convince others to join them (or, in olden times, following MS's lead as with AJAX).