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Apple already shipped attestation on the web, and we barely noticed

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596 points pimterry | 3 comments | 25 Jul 23 14:10 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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freedomben ◴[25 Jul 23 15:32 UTC] No.36863801[source]▶
> That said, it's not as dangerous as the Google proposal, simply because Safari isn't the dominant browser. Right now, Safari has around 20% market share in browsers (25% on mobile, and 15% on desktop), while Chrome is comfortably above 60% everywhere, with Chromium more generally (Brave, Edge, Opera, Samsung Internet, etc) about 10% above that.

I don't agree, in fact I think it's equally as bad for Apple to do it as Google. Apple has completely let us down. If Google forced it through but Apple refused, it would never be practical to enforce it. The numbers may not be as high, but they're plenty high enough that you couldn't cut all iDevices out. Apple and Google and Microsoft are the only three that really matter.

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1. elishah ◴[25 Jul 23 17:24 UTC] No.36865938[source]▶
> If Google forced it through but Apple refused, it would never be practical to enforce it. The numbers may not be as high, but they're plenty high enough that you couldn't cut all iDevices out.

Yes. Up until now, the amount of Google bullshit that Safari has saved us all from is _staggering._ It is unfortunate that this won't be another catastrophe deflected.

This is also why I'm concerned about legislation requiring Apple to open up sideloading onto their devices. As much as I love the idea of people having control over their own systems, in practice I'm afraid that it's just going to be the final nail that solidifies Google's complete control over the web all the way out to the client.

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2. manderley ◴[25 Jul 23 20:33 UTC] No.36868973[source]▶
While I don't even get your point, most people aren't going to sideload anything. Just like pretty much no one sideloads anything on their Android phone. It's irrelevant.
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3. consumer451 ◴[25 Jul 23 22:42 UTC] No.36870732[source]▶
I thought DJI required sideloading on Android. Is this not the case anymore?

https://old.reddit.com/r/dji/comments/w8mkdd/why_must_the_dj...