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Apple already shipped attestation on the web, and we barely noticed

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596 points pimterry | 2 comments | 25 Jul 23 14:10 UTC | HN request time: 0.413s | source
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lifeisstillgood ◴[25 Jul 23 14:29 UTC] No.36862777[source]▶
I kind of get both sides here. If we take the "see the best of others intentions" then a web that is populated by identified humans (and their authorised proxies!) is likely to be the "cleanest", most ideal web space we can see (a web full of sock puppets and link farms is not ideal).

The clearest end point for this is some government issued digital ID that just asserts who you are, acts as a login etc.

You can see this as a stepping stone to there. if you squint.

Is it the idealism of the 70s coke to life? No. Is it some sane compromise - I think so.

What if we cannot trust our government ? Sorry it is pretty sure that no internet is going to solve that. That's on the real world.

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codedokode ◴[25 Jul 23 14:58 UTC] No.36863250[source]▶
> web that is populated by identified humans

This is not going to work. The governments will create millions of fake identities to spread their propaganda, same way as they are making fake passports for spies.

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1. phatfish ◴[25 Jul 23 15:35 UTC] No.36863852[source]▶
Yeah good point, lets just give up and let Apple, Google and Microsoft spread their propaganda instead. Which is just going to be US propaganda for everyone with zero chance for me to change how US controlled corporations behave.

At least I have some say who is screwing me when my government is democratically elected (to whichever degree of democracy you have).

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2. pessimizer ◴[25 Jul 23 17:10 UTC] No.36865681[source]▶
> let Apple, Google and Microsoft spread their propaganda instead.

Who said you had to choose between these two scenarios again? It's so bizarre that people see government as an oppositional force to government contractors operating under government charters.