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Apple already shipped attestation on the web, and we barely noticed

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596 points pimterry | 6 comments | 25 Jul 23 14:10 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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toyg ◴[25 Jul 23 14:54 UTC] No.36863175[source]▶
This might be where the internet really gets forked, as it's been predicted over and over since the '90s.

On one side, we'll have a "clean", authority-sanctioned "corpweb", where everyone is ID'ed to the wazoo; on the other, a more casual "greynet" galaxy of porn and decentralized communities will likely emerge, once all tinkerers get pushed out of corpnet. It could be an interesting opportunity to reboot a few long-lost dreams.

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bestouff ◴[25 Jul 23 15:06 UTC] No.36863389[source]▶
... until your phone and OS web browser will refuse to connect to the "greynet", or that just attempting to do so has you categorized as being a potential outlaw.
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readyplayernull ◴[25 Jul 23 15:10 UTC] No.36863457[source]▶
... that in turn will trigger a new age of open devices, browsers and OSes.
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1. RcouF1uZ4gsC ◴[25 Jul 23 15:24 UTC] No.36863683[source]▶
There are only a few companies that can produce state of the art chips and those companies are easily regulated by the government.

These open devices would be running slow hot CPUs compared to the newer faster chips that the non-open devices would be running.

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2. willcipriano ◴[25 Jul 23 15:46 UTC] No.36864069[source]▶
You don't need state of the art. We had supercomputers in our pockets a decade ago.
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3. Jolter ◴[25 Jul 23 17:17 UTC] No.36865795[source]▶
Still most consumers are unwilling to pay a premium for open hardware software. A thinner phone with a faster experience and better battery life seems to be all we care about. C.F. how repairable devices are a marginal part of the smartphone market.

Most people are not even willing to pay a few cents extra for a banana that didn’t cause cancer on plantation workers.

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4. toyg ◴[25 Jul 23 18:11 UTC] No.36866814{3}[source]▶
"Most people" eat shit food and watch fixed sport competitions. That is not the point. The point is trying to be better.
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5. willcipriano ◴[25 Jul 23 19:24 UTC] No.36867991{3}[source]▶
Id watch a black and white TV that is uncensored over a 8k TV that only plays content that falls within corporate guidelines. Content is king.
6. jackvalentine ◴[26 Jul 23 01:57 UTC] No.36872240{4}[source]▶
Right? In the cool indy web who actually cares about mass adoption. There is no way of saying it without being elitist but sometimes you just don’t want everyone in your space.