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superkuh ◴[] No.36862573[source]
Google/Microsoft/Apple essentially did this with HTTP/3 too. None of their shipped browsers are able to connect to a non-"CA TLS" HTTP/3 endpoint. To host a HTTP/3 website visitable by a random normal person you have to get continued approval (every 3 months min) from a third party CA corporation for your website.
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2OEH8eoCRo0 ◴[] No.36862591[source]
What do you mean approval? You'd need a cert from an entity like Let's Encrypt?
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superkuh ◴[] No.36862610[source]
Yep. LetsEncrypt is great but everyone centralizing in them is not so great. Normal browsers having the ability to connect to a bare HTTP endpoint in HTTP/3 would solve any problems that might arise from this centralization. It's a straightforwards and easy thing to fix for the HTTP/3 lib devs and mega-corp browsers using those libs. But no one cares about it.
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packetlost ◴[] No.36862723[source]
Kinda surprised there isn't a few CAs that set up Let's Encrypt-like automated infrastructure that charge a small subscription fee for certificates. I'd pay $1-$3/m or so for preventing a mono-culture + big attack surface, but don't really want to give up the convenience of Let's Encrypt.

I know there's a big barrier to entry for being a CA (as there should be), but it shouldn't be impossible.

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Avamander ◴[] No.36862744[source]
> Kinda surprised there isn't a few CAs that set up Let's Encrypt-like automated infrastructure that charge a small subscription fee for certificates.

There are other ACME-compatible CA's.

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packetlost ◴[] No.36862805[source]
Oh? Examples?
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capableweb ◴[] No.36862858[source]
https://zerossl.com/ is a popular alternative. https://www.buypass.com/ is another one I haven't personally tried.
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ehhthing ◴[] No.36863059[source]
Also Google Trust Services has free certificates although you need a Google Cloud project for it.
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1. capableweb ◴[] No.36863087[source]
Not sure Google is a great alternative if you want to prevent further centralization of CAs :)