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Windows NT on 600MHz machine opens apps instantly. What happened?

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752 points dceddia | 1 comments | 23 Jun 23 14:02 UTC | HN request time: 0.218s | source
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verall ◴[23 Jun 23 14:36 UTC] No.36447353[source]▶
A lot of people are bringing up Wirth's law or other things, but I want to get more specific.

Has anyone else noticed how bad sign-on redirect flows have gotten in the past ~5 years?

It used to be you clicked sign in, and then you were redirected to a login page. Now I typically see my browser go through 4+ redirects, stuck at a white screen for 10-60 seconds.

I'm a systems C++ developer and I know nothing about webdev. Can someone _please_ fill me in on what's going on here and how every single website has this new slowness?

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1. immibis ◴[24 Jun 23 17:45 UTC] No.36460900[source]▶
Your browser gets bounced between different sites that don't have the full picture because the process is optimized for the explainability of each part of the system instead of the performance of the whole system. It's something like: the website says "go to Microsoft to get signed in" and then microsoft.com says "actually Microsoft logins are now Live logins so go to login.live.com" and then that says "oh hey, you are already authorized, let me return this result back to Microsoft.com" which then says "oh hey, here's your result, pass it to yourwebsite.com". Something like that. Not exactly that. The point is: nobody has responsibility for the system. People only have responsibility for parts and Conway's Law applies.