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752 points dceddia | 1 comments | 23 Jun 23 14:02 UTC | HN request time: 1.571s | source
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verall ◴[23 Jun 23 14:36 UTC] No.36447353[source]▶
A lot of people are bringing up Wirth's law or other things, but I want to get more specific.

Has anyone else noticed how bad sign-on redirect flows have gotten in the past ~5 years?

It used to be you clicked sign in, and then you were redirected to a login page. Now I typically see my browser go through 4+ redirects, stuck at a white screen for 10-60 seconds.

I'm a systems C++ developer and I know nothing about webdev. Can someone _please_ fill me in on what's going on here and how every single website has this new slowness?

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kitsunesoba ◴[23 Jun 23 15:19 UTC] No.36448057[source]▶
Google and Microsoft are the worst for this. When you sign on you can see it flashing through several of their products, signing you on in each, before finally redirecting you to wherever you intended to go.

It might be done for user retention reasons with the idea that people are more likely to use sites they're already signed into, but I really don't need to be signed into YouTube when I sign into my Google work account. Please just skip that and sign in a few seconds quicker.

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1. Peanuts99 ◴[23 Jun 23 17:53 UTC] No.36450150[source]▶
It's because Microsoft and Google are the two largest identity providers around. Microsoft has M365 logins that can be configured with about 12 different authentication systems, as well as the various services like outlook.com, Hotmail etc. It has to check the login against those systems and then redirect you to that system.