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verall ◴[23 Jun 23 14:36 UTC] No.36447353[source]▶
A lot of people are bringing up Wirth's law or other things, but I want to get more specific.

Has anyone else noticed how bad sign-on redirect flows have gotten in the past ~5 years?

It used to be you clicked sign in, and then you were redirected to a login page. Now I typically see my browser go through 4+ redirects, stuck at a white screen for 10-60 seconds.

I'm a systems C++ developer and I know nothing about webdev. Can someone _please_ fill me in on what's going on here and how every single website has this new slowness?

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thefourthchime ◴[23 Jun 23 14:42 UTC] No.36447462[source]▶
OMG Yes. At my megacorp I work at they have this internal HR/401k site thing. I think it goes through 30+ redirects to get anywhere. It's INSANE. We have something called "Pitstop" and clicking on the list of tickets takes 30s+ to load.
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verall ◴[23 Jun 23 14:45 UTC] No.36447518[source]▶
My record is Jira successfully loading a page in around 8 minutes. It seriously sat on a white screen for 8 minutes, then boom there's the page - no interaction or F5. What on earth could it have been doing for that long??
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1. mschuster91 ◴[23 Jun 23 14:51 UTC] No.36447597[source]▶
IME that's usually because:

- the database and/or the Tomcat server have way too low RAM and start swapping like no end

- way too many people had admin access in Jira and installed a metric shit ton of plugins

- the AD configuration is messed up and instead of only user accounts it loads (and verifies) tens of thousands of user and machine accounts at each login

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2. verall ◴[23 Jun 23 15:10 UTC] No.36447913[source]▶
It's probably the plugins, but even then I would have assumed that timeouts would have made it impossible to load a page that slow.
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3. mschuster91 ◴[23 Jun 23 15:21 UTC] No.36448091[source]▶
Given that people absolutely love to upload multi-GB files to Jira (and will nag the admins to disable timeouts and size limit), many admins have long since relented...

After all, why pay for an expensive DMS when you have Jira?