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LanceH ◴[] No.36435739[source]
I don't have a lot of fondness for companies which offer a free product until it becomes entrenched, then take it away. I think of how MS and Adobe both turned a blind eye toward piracy until everything else had been killed off, then they went hard on piracy.

That said, perhaps moderators and users should be willing to admit that Reddit produces some of the value here. Every voice I've heard is, "we do all the work", "we produce all the value". It's also comical to hear moderators say that when the users of their subreddit could make the same claim trumping the moderator.

Right now the mods seem to be flexing their muscle, showing that Reddit has allowed them too much power, rather than showing the actual need for an api. In all of these discussions, I haven't seen a single video detailing side by side how necessary the third party apps are. Just claims that everyone needs them and uses them.

Reddit, of course, seems hell bent on making their UI worse and worse. I don't know what their play is or how they plan on getting paid for it. I have to say, though, for a free product their ads are among the least intrusive I can think of.

Every subreddit is just a click away from moving, though. I see some doing it. But a lot of those subreddits enjoy the influx of users that reddit brings them (until they don't, of course).

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kimbernator ◴[] No.36435783[source]
I never got the impression that the community is claiming that Reddit doesn't produce any value. I've seen willingness to pay a reasonable amount from most people.

Reddit brings the platform, users bring the community. If Reddit flexes their muscles to force users to their will, it's only natural for users to flex back.

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that_guy_iain ◴[] No.36435902[source]
What is a reasonable amount?
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ambicapter ◴[] No.36435964[source]
Much, much less than what they were asking for. The top reddit app was being faced with a yearly bill in the tens of millions of dollars, and comparison to other social media website APIs saw a price discrepancy of 20x iirc.
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that_guy_iain ◴[] No.36436067[source]
The other social media API is Imgur.

Pricing for Imgur is: $500 for 7.5m requests then $0.01 per request after that. Then $10,000 for 150m requests and $0.01 per request after that.

Reddit is at $0.24 per 1,000. Or $0.00024 per request.

Imgur is cheaper for 150m requests but Reddit is cheaper for 500m requests.

So really, what is a reasonable pricing?

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afterburner ◴[] No.36436179{3}[source]
Surely you see a difference between serving pictures and serving text.
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1. Supermancho ◴[] No.36436564{4}[source]
APIs I am familiar with differ, primarily, on the size of the data and additional features (formats supported, timeliness, etc).