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OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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nightski ◴[] No.36213208[source]
This is great work and I commend it. But in other threads people are acting like Asahi Linux hardware support is 100% complete. My fear is that if I were to go this route and purchase the hardware I'd be seeing fraction of the performance and capability I would in Mac OS. To be honest this blog post seems like the project has a long ways to go, not that it is nearly completion.

I just can't justify buying hardware from a company that is so hostile to developers and hackers as nice as it may be.

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rollcat ◴[] No.36213287[source]
> I just can't justify buying hardware from a company that is so hostile to developers and hackers as nice as it may be.

I don't think it's hostile, I think they're just hands-off; they throw the hardware over the fence and say, "if you wanna make use of it, here's our software; if you don't like our software, sorry no docs but you're free to write your own". Which is exactly what's happening.

I mean it would be nice if Apple had released more documentation, but I totally understand if they don't want the burden of supporting it.

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thx-2718 ◴[] No.36213579[source]
First, personally I don't care what hardware or software people use, if they are happy with the tools that they using then that's good.

That said, Apple has been very hostile to hackers over the years imo. Hardware being hard to repair, access, upgrade, etc. I think at one point they were making it virtually impossible to replace components because they were serial locked.

As far as I am aware, progress Apple as made has been in response to public image issues or changes in consumer laws within the EU.

Plus Apple software is heavily indebted to Open Source software so they very easily could be releasing drivers for their hardware instead of relying on community to do backwards engineering.

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circuit10 ◴[] No.36215044[source]
“I think at one point they were making it virtually impossible to replace components because they were serial locked.”

They are very much still doing that

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hedora ◴[] No.36217364[source]
In fairness, most instances of them doing that actually significantly increase the cost of evil maid hardware tampering attacks.

If I could, I'd configure grub or whatever to serial-lock my Linux install to my desktop hardware (and keep a recovery key that would unlock it at another location).

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1. rollcat ◴[] No.36224972[source]
> If I could, I'd configure grub or whatever to serial-lock my Linux install to my desktop hardware (and keep a recovery key that would unlock it at another location).

This is the general idea behind TPM/Secure Boot, but as you present it, it just sounds like a headache for performing system recovery, at no obvious benefit for security.

What's your threat model? In the 99.(9)% case it's a crook snatching the laptop, wiping the HD, and selling the whole thing and/or the parts. Evil maid is a real threat, but only practical (in terms of sophistication/cost vs benefit) for high-value targets, like C-levels, devs holding company secret keys, etc.

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2. hedora ◴[] No.36228547[source]
I don't really care if the desktop gets snatched. I'm more worried about old tax returns, the credentials stored in its password manager, etc. Breaking in twice (once to install a bump in the wire key logger, and once to walk away with the machine) would lead to at least 10x more payout for a burglar.

Also, ignoring what it is worth to the attacker, having to roll over all my credentials, freeze accounts, etc, etc, because my desktop was stolen would cost way more of my time than buying a new desktop (happily, the drive is encrypted).

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3. rollcat ◴[] No.36245455[source]
Sounds like paranoia.