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OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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512 points simjue | 2 comments | 06 Jun 23 13:46 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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kytazo ◴[06 Jun 23 14:18 UTC] No.36213178[source]▶
Its been more than a year I'm running asahi on my macbook air and I can't stress how grateful I feel for enjoying such wonderful freedom.

I don't feel like ever going back to x86 to be honest, at this point there is nothing lacking or unable to run and when the neural engine drivers come online now that the GPU is starting to mature people will be able to juice out every last bit of computation this machine is capable of.

For the record, I've switched to the edge branch a couple of months ago and honestly I noticed no actual difference in my day-to-day tasks which is really telling about how powerful even the M1 is when it can handle software rendering in such an effortless manner coupled with anything else running.

Really thank god for asahi being a thing.

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JCWasmx86 ◴[06 Jun 23 14:46 UTC] No.36213626[source]▶
Would you say buying e.g. a Mac mini for 2.3k€ just to run Asahi Linux is worth it?
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jb1991 ◴[06 Jun 23 14:56 UTC] No.36213791[source]▶
I’ve owned both windows and Apple computers, quite many of them, over the last 20 years. On average, the Apple machines last at least twice as long as the windows machines while still being fully usable. One could argue just based on that basic math that they are worth twice the price.
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jabbany ◴[06 Jun 23 15:05 UTC] No.36213933[source]▶
Unfortunately, Apple machines are usually 4 - 10 times more expensive, making this choice still quite difficult.
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jb1991 ◴[06 Jun 23 15:49 UTC] No.36214674[source]▶
They are expensive but 10X certainly seems like a stretch. Show me comparably specd hardware only 10% the price of an Apple machine?
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Thews ◴[06 Jun 23 16:28 UTC] No.36215248[source]▶
A micro ryzen 5600U build with really bad quality components can be half the price of a mac mini with equal CPU performance. If you upgrade all of the mac specs you can probably get a larger divide, but IMO maxed out macs don't make much sense for most people.
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1. wtallis ◴[06 Jun 23 16:56 UTC] No.36215755{3}[source]▶
It's that focusing on one specific aspect of the system and compromising on everything else that produces the really big discrepancies. I tried to use PCPartPicker to spec out a rough equivalent of a maxed-out Mac Pro in terms of CPU cores, GPU performance, and RAM and SSD capacity, but still ended up at with at most a 3.5x disparity, and that's ignoring the GPU VRAM capacity limitation and features like Thunderbolt and 10GbE and assembly and warranty and support. If you want to assign $0 value to a large portion of a Mac's features then you can make it look wildly overpriced, but that's mostly an admission that it's the wrong product for your needs.
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2. Thews ◴[06 Jun 23 19:40 UTC] No.36218062[source]▶
The years of the keyboard issues left a bad taste in my mouth, but I switched to a non mac laptop for my previous laptop and now I'm back again. The coupling of the OS and hardware really do make for a great user experience. I don't want to play games on my laptop, which is the only real use case where I hear valid complaints. I just need my dev environment and snappy research and communication.

A valid complaint from me is linux based container resource utilization. The only really good fix for that IMO is if apple did something like WSL2 or FreeBSD's linux ABI and had an efficient compatibility layer. For now I just run dev containers on my (linux) desktop.