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OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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512 points simjue | 3 comments | 06 Jun 23 13:46 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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nightski ◴[06 Jun 23 14:20 UTC] No.36213208[source]▶
This is great work and I commend it. But in other threads people are acting like Asahi Linux hardware support is 100% complete. My fear is that if I were to go this route and purchase the hardware I'd be seeing fraction of the performance and capability I would in Mac OS. To be honest this blog post seems like the project has a long ways to go, not that it is nearly completion.

I just can't justify buying hardware from a company that is so hostile to developers and hackers as nice as it may be.

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coldtea ◴[06 Jun 23 15:17 UTC] No.36214150[source]▶
>My fear is that if I were to go this route and purchase the hardware I'd be seeing fraction of the performance and capability I would in Mac OS.

The performance is there, it has been running stuff much faster than the vast majority of Intel/AMD laptops for over a year.

Regarding the capabilities not sure which one you miss. Do you plan to use it for development, or you want some kind of gaming/multimedia setup?

>To be honest this blog post seems like the project has a long ways to go, not that it is nearly completion.

It's the other way around. It has been usable as a daily driver for ages.

>I just can't justify buying hardware from a company that is so hostile to developers and hackers as nice as it may be.

Then don't?

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1. nightski ◴[06 Jun 23 15:38 UTC] No.36214496[source]▶
I don't see why it is unreasonable to desire Apple to provide documentation and open up their hardware. Honestly I'd ask the same as any other hardware vendor. Intel for example provides very detailed technical documents on their new GPUs (A770).
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2. coldtea ◴[06 Jun 23 16:32 UTC] No.36215341[source]▶
It's not unreasonable, it's just not gonna happen any time soon.
3. MBCook ◴[07 Jun 23 01:39 UTC] No.36221691[source]▶
> Intel for example provides very detailed technical documents on their new GPUs

Intel sells parts to other people, and those buyers expect that kind of documentation. And when it comes to GPUs they’re in 3rd place for high end GPUs and are incentivized to give people as much info as possible to optimize for their hardware.

Apple doesn’t sell their computer hardware to any other OEMs, or hsve a 3rd party making their OS, so they don’t need to produce documentation for anyone.

I agree it would be nice if it was documented. But absent a law forcing them I don’t see it happening.