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OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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512 points simjue | 9 comments | 06 Jun 23 13:46 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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nightski ◴[06 Jun 23 14:20 UTC] No.36213208[source]▶
This is great work and I commend it. But in other threads people are acting like Asahi Linux hardware support is 100% complete. My fear is that if I were to go this route and purchase the hardware I'd be seeing fraction of the performance and capability I would in Mac OS. To be honest this blog post seems like the project has a long ways to go, not that it is nearly completion.

I just can't justify buying hardware from a company that is so hostile to developers and hackers as nice as it may be.

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1. jb1991 ◴[06 Jun 23 14:59 UTC] No.36213841[source]▶
There have been multiple reports of the last couple years that Apple has been informally internally helping the Asahi Linux team to make it run well on their hardware. Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course, but they are aware of the interest and are helping make it happen, in an unofficial capacity.
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2. freedomben ◴[06 Jun 23 15:23 UTC] No.36214244[source]▶
> Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course

Why?

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3. hollerith ◴[06 Jun 23 18:25 UTC] No.36217039[source]▶
>Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course

Apple officially supported running Windows on Macs for many years.

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4. jb1991 ◴[06 Jun 23 19:10 UTC] No.36217641[source]▶
You can still do so with VMs, officially endorsed. But Bootcamp is RIP. Asahi Linux is not a VM, so not a fair comparison.
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5. hollerith ◴[06 Jun 23 19:25 UTC] No.36217854{3}[source]▶
I wasn't comparing. I was refuting your assertion.

What has changed that prevents Apple from officially endorsing another OS nowadays when it clearly was able to do so in the past?

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6. IshKebab ◴[06 Jun 23 21:25 UTC] No.36219325[source]▶
Yeah that's nonsense. They already have bootcamp.
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7. MBCook ◴[07 Jun 23 01:49 UTC] No.36221773{4}[source]▶
My assumption would be support.

Boot Camp was officially supported. It gave them an advantage because it helped people move over to a Mac from windows because they could still run some of their software.

If Apple was to help Asahi officially, I think they would be worried that they would be on the hook either for continuing to support it or for damage done to the hardware by other peoples changes to the code.

Basically I think it’s a combination of not wanting to spend the money and being worried about the potential downsides of doing it.

The upside, in terms of additional sales, is likely very small.

8. jb1991 ◴[07 Jun 23 06:27 UTC] No.36223553{3}[source]▶
That’s incorrect. Bootcamp has not existed for a while now.
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9. IshKebab ◴[07 Jun 23 17:48 UTC] No.36230475{4}[source]▶
Looks like it still exists, they just never ported it to the ARM chips, presumably because nobody wants ARM Windows.

In any case that's really irrelevant to the main point which is that Apple appears to have no objection to other OSes running on their laptops.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if they don't go out of their way to help and make it de facto impossible through secure boot systems.