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Please, please stop using Xorg with Asahi Linux

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49 points 1una | 2 comments | 13 May 23 13:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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jasoneckert ◴[13 May 23 13:20 UTC] No.35928101[source]▶
This makes perfect sense - the Asahi project is about developing a robust Linux distro for Apple Silicon systems and must focus their limited resources on achieving that goal. Spending time to support X.org - which is quickly becoming deprecated for Wayland - isn't a good use of their limited resources.
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gjvc ◴[13 May 23 13:40 UTC] No.35928270[source]▶
which is quickly becoming deprecated for Wayland

On what planet is this true?

update: I sit somewhat corrected. I have retried KDE with an NVidia card and /usr/bin/Xwayland and am impressed. Not 100% perfect, but very usable.

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gjsman-1000 ◴[13 May 23 14:04 UTC] No.35928500[source]▶
This planet. GNOME and KDE have both announced Wayland is default for future releases and they are working towards depreciation.

Red Hat has announced they are depreciating Xorg already; which is a huge deal because they are almost single-handedly the only contributor keeping Xorg alive. Once they are done, work on Xorg will basically cease forever.

Considering Xorg is based on X11 which dates back to June 1984, I can’t blame them. A graphics system from 1984 is not suitable for 2023 in any capacity. Not without a ton of hacks, workarounds, and jank everywhere.

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1. shrimp_emoji ◴[13 May 23 18:21 UTC] No.35931120[source]▶
But it still won't be at parity or stability with X11 for the next... 10 years, is my guess?

So, yes, there's striving to a Wayland, post-X11 future, but it's far from the sure thing that X11 is.

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2. gjvc ◴[14 May 23 15:20 UTC] No.35938646[source]▶
Seems to be closer than I thought.