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Please, please stop using Xorg with Asahi Linux

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49 points 1una | 1 comments | 13 May 23 13:06 UTC | HN request time: 0.228s | source
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not_your_vase ◴[13 May 23 13:14 UTC] No.35928051[source]▶
> Yes, not every random app and feature you use on Xorg will have a Wayland equivalent. Deal with it.

In general this sentence is why the Year of Desktop Linux won't come in this millennia. Not only XOrg vs Wayland. Many such cases. Sad!

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samwillis ◴[13 May 23 13:22 UTC] No.35928112[source]▶
No, the reason "Linux on the Desktop" won't happen is that it's not shipped by any (significant) hardware manufacturer for general desktop use. No one (in the scheme of things) installs an OS that didn't come with their hardware, and they never will. Open source developers, contributors and purists can't change that, no matter how hard they try.

But, Android is a thing, and Linux is literally everywhere. OS has won, even if the mythical "Desktop Linux" didn't.

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not_your_vase ◴[13 May 23 13:29 UTC] No.35928170[source]▶
In 2023 I have to push back on this. Installing one of the the mainline distros is easier, user-friendlier and faster than installing a random soundcard driver on windows.

After installing their first distro, most people have a good experience. Then they install an update, that causes some ridiculous regression. At this time they have 2 choices: spend 2 weeks on reading all kind of arcane documentation, or go back to whatever they were using before. Or ask the maintainer, who responds "deal with it".

Just as another, fresh example, look at this: https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2023/05/10/gnome-core-app... - Gnome finally has thumbnails in the file picker, but they removed the music player. You can't have everything, I guess.

This kind of attitude why the Year of Desktop Linux will not be seen by our generation, not evil manufacturers.

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1. alpaca128 ◴[13 May 23 14:19 UTC] No.35928676[source]▶
> Installing one of the the mainline distros is easier, user-friendlier and faster than installing a random soundcard driver on windows.

And yet the average user will probably not do that, just like their eyes will glaze over if you say the incantation "soundcard driver" in their presence. It's unfamiliar and their friends don't use it, and that's it. Easy to install? Okay, but can you give a reason for them to even try?

Many people don't buy a Windows/Mac OS laptop or Android phone or iOS tablet. They buy a MacBook, Samsung S42, iPad, Steam Deck. OS? Web browser? Doesn't matter.