←back to thread

Please, please stop using Xorg with Asahi Linux

(social.treehouse.systems)
49 points 1una | 3 comments | 13 May 23 13:06 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
Show context
jasoneckert ◴[13 May 23 13:20 UTC] No.35928101[source]▶
This makes perfect sense - the Asahi project is about developing a robust Linux distro for Apple Silicon systems and must focus their limited resources on achieving that goal. Spending time to support X.org - which is quickly becoming deprecated for Wayland - isn't a good use of their limited resources.
replies(5): >>35928181 #>>35928191 #>>35928270 #>>35928419 #>>35928948 #
gjvc ◴[13 May 23 13:40 UTC] No.35928270[source]▶
which is quickly becoming deprecated for Wayland

On what planet is this true?

update: I sit somewhat corrected. I have retried KDE with an NVidia card and /usr/bin/Xwayland and am impressed. Not 100% perfect, but very usable.

replies(3): >>35928410 #>>35928500 #>>35929223 #
1. zamadatix ◴[13 May 23 13:55 UTC] No.35928410[source]▶
Note xwayland isn't included in that. Also some read deprecation as already replaced which isn't necessarily the same thing.

Being Asahi is not only brand new but not even near a first stable release the amount of surprise about the lack of xorg focus seems as silly as those that act like wayland reached parity 2 years ago

replies(1): >>35930094 #
2. yjftsjthsd-h ◴[13 May 23 16:43 UTC] No.35930094[source]▶
> Note xwayland isn't included in that.

I do wonder if that isn't a solution. Couldn't they just ship rootful xwayland as the officially supported X server on Asahi, thereby being able to drop X.org without trashing people's setups?

Edit: This is a suggestion, not a "well why didn't they just do this".

replies(1): >>35936171 #
3. chungy ◴[14 May 23 07:47 UTC] No.35936171[source]▶
XWayland is just an X server on top of Wayland. You could use it to run your whole desktop, but it's not the best use for it. It's really just great at running legacy applications without a Wayland version (especially old games and such).