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thathndude ◴[] No.35844191[source]
This was always a dumb idea. No different than a “master” TSA key. All it does is create a single point of failure.
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rvba ◴[] No.35845052[source]
It was a genius idea - you cannot install Windows 11 on an old computer. So you need to buy a new one.

Monopoly practice hidden as security.

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sobkas ◴[] No.35846509[source]
> It was a genius idea - you cannot install Windows 11 on an old computer. So you need to buy a new one.

> Monopoly practice hidden as security.

Actually you can, it's only checked by installer, if you modify it there is nothing stopping you from installing it. I have installed one on my parents computer. CPU wasn't supported but after installation everything worked ok.

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userbinator ◴[] No.35846557[source]
The point is that it's more difficult and acts as discouragement. Ditto for the elusiveness of the word "support" --- it can mean anything from "nearly impossible" to "it works but we don't want you to".
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philistine ◴[] No.35846783[source]
Yeah. Microsoft not allowing me to install Windows 11 on my 486 is a secret ploy to force me to upgrade, when Microsoft makes no money on new sales of computers!
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SturgeonsLaw ◴[] No.35847290[source]
Eh, it's a bit more exclusive than that. I'm writing this comment on a Sandy Bridge Core i7 which handles current gen games (mostly thanks to the GPU, but still), yet Win 11 won't support it.

Not a huge loss in my eyes, I see Win 11 as a strictly worse OS than Win 10. Haven't yet seen any feature whatsoever that strikes me as an improvement.

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Dalewyn[dead post] ◴[] No.35847357[source]
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userbinator ◴[] No.35847448[source]
Better support for high refresh rate monitors and variable refresh rate setups.

That's a GPU driver thing.

More cohesive UI

You mean more useless UI. Changes that no real user wants, like rounded corners and excessive padding everywhere.

...and don't forget the increased spyware and requirements to use an online account to login.

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1. nullcontext ◴[] No.35847901[source]
Also remember that time Microsoft said confidently that Windows 10 was the last version of Windows?

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

"Microsoft could opt for Windows 11 or Windows 12 in future, but if people upgrade to Windows 10 and the regular updates do the trick then everyone will just settle for just "Windows" without even worrying about the version number."

Windows 11 is fetid garbage. There is no improvement worth subjecting myself to it and never will be far as I can see. I will never install or use it. LTSC for now and the forseeable future for my use cases. Updates are only done if I deem them additive and not routine. Security is not my biggest red line anyway. Updates are a choice not an inevitability and retaining choice is my right as a user as well as my responsibility to exercise wisely. Forcing compliance is a bad way to get me to do things. TPM, UEFI, Attestation systems of any kind are used as I see fit only and how I deem acceptable.

I rue the slow march away from customization, self-administration, interoperability and the long walk toward closed systems with trusted components required to work and perform basic things. That approval of the gatekeepers. I will stay my own gatekeeper, thanks. Netflix can suck it, i'll torrent it instead if it won't work without golden keys.

All that stuff is really only the foundation for the long game of future-proofing revenue streams for content makers anyway. A means to exercise control over it and you using it.