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codedokode ◴[] No.35844123[source]
Isn't it good? Does leaked key mean that now owners of hardware will be able to read and modify the firmware, including IME, and check it for backdoors?

Such keys should be in the hands of users, not Intel.

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tapoxi ◴[] No.35844419[source]
Realistically it means a lot more people are going to cheat in Valorant.
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shrimp_emoji ◴[] No.35844631[source]
Oh no! Here, please, backdoor my OS with a kernel anticheat -- anything that saves me from cheaters in the current bideo game of the month! D:
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CircleSpokes ◴[] No.35844904[source]
I honestly don't understand why people act like this. Wanting to be able to ensure firmware isn't maliciously modified is a good thing. Open firmware is also a good idea obviously but there has to be a way to ensure firmware is signed either by OEM or your own keys like secure boot.

As for games, lots of people play games and want good anticheat. If you don't like that you don't have to play those games but no need to act like the way you are because other people want decent anticheat.

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kortilla ◴[] No.35845630[source]
>honestly don't understand why people act like this.

Because it’s social pressure to compromise your computer to a gaming company to get to play a game.

People don’t care about the anticheat on their computer, they want it foisted on everyone else who plays, which is a sucky proposition for privacy and security minded people.

It’s like advocating for the TSA to be controlling access to the grocery store because you want to feel safe there and don’t mind the privacy violation.

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charcircuit ◴[] No.35845722[source]
>to compromise your computer

What do you mean by this? As the user you are intending to have the game and its anticheat run. Having to download and run a game on your computer isn't compromising your computer either. Maybe the only thing which doesn't give the game company power to run potentially malicious code on your machine is cloud gaming. That also solves the cheating problem at least.

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kortilla ◴[] No.35846785[source]
Do you think the 30+ years of user-space isolation improvements that have gone into modern OSes are not undone by a kernel module?
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charcircuit ◴[] No.35846821[source]
The whole point of a kernel level anticheat in that it can bypass the isolation to find cheats.

The isolation still exists for normal programs when the anticheat is present.

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1. takeda ◴[] No.35846992{3}[source]
Sure, isolation exists except for Riot Games (and any other company that adds similar mandatory modules, which eventually will be all). Oh yeah, assuming there also won't be any vulnerabilities, but that's impossible, because we all know about the high quality software coming from gaming industry.