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squokko ◴[] No.35514266[source]
Fewer than half of the hypereducated peers I know have kids, while my gardener has 8 kids, so I expect that this trend will continue
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1. Havoc ◴[] No.35514401[source]
Education is not IQ
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2. Clubber ◴[] No.35514564[source]
>Education is not IQ

This is true but I suspect people with higher IQs tend to have more education. Probably because they are "good" at learning while someone with a lower IQ struggles more and doesn't like it because of that.

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3. squokko ◴[] No.35514851[source]
My gardener is not high IQ. Good guy and hard worker but there has got to be some correlation between IQ and education.
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4. sainez ◴[] No.35515336[source]
> My gardener is not high IQ.

Wow! You must have ran a battery of IQ tests to assert this with such absolute certainty.

My father used to be a gardener to make ends meet. Because of a lack of education and a language barrier, I'm sure he would appear low IQ as well. Now he works in electronics manufacturing and the efficiency by which he debugs production problems and reasons from first principles would put many of my educated peers to shame. What can be easily dismissed as a lack of ability can be more reasonably explained by a lack of opportunity and resources. But it is easier for privileged people to look down on others and believe that everyone is in a position they deserve.

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5. Apocryphon ◴[] No.35515474[source]
Chris Langan was a bouncer for twenty years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan

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6. dqft ◴[] No.35515509{3}[source]
The gardener is still not high IQ.
7. squokko ◴[] No.35515515{3}[source]
What do you think this proves, and why?
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8. squokko ◴[] No.35515533{3}[source]
I don't look down on him. I'd rather live next to him than my existing neighbors. But do you think that maybe I have a better read on him than you do, given that I see him every 2 weeks and you have no idea who he is?
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9. kube-system ◴[] No.35517940[source]
There's a correlation but there's at least a few intermediary variables. And it isn't linear -- people with very high IQs often have a difficult time with their educations.
10. davorak ◴[] No.35518269{4}[source]
In my experience claims of knowing the intelligence of another person are often wrong. Enough so that I reserve judgement much more often than not.

I think the above is part of the doubt you are running into with your claim. You might be able to come up with evidence/stores that would lend credence to you conclusions about your gardener, but I do not think it would move your main point "there has got to be some correlation between IQ and education." forward.

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11. squokko ◴[] No.35520222{5}[source]
Of course I could be wrong, but the number of times the guy screws up and the incredibly poor decisions he makes if not completely specified indicates some structural intellectual deficits. I don’t know whether that’s literally IQ or not.
12. astrange ◴[] No.35522697[source]
It's because IQ is a test and more education means taking more tests, so there is circular causality.