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Buck2: Our open source build system

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392 points mfiguiere | 3 comments | 06 Apr 23 16:05 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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phendrenad2 ◴[06 Apr 23 21:48 UTC] No.35474996[source]▶
> Build systems stand between a programmer and running their code, so anything we can do to make the experience quicker or more productive directly impacts how effective a developer can be.

How about doing away with the build system entirely? Build systems seem like something that shouldn't exist. When I create a new C# .NET app in Visual Studio 2019, what "build system" does it use? You might have an academic answer, but that's beside the point. It doesn't matter. It just builds. Optimizing a build system feels like a lack of vision, and getting stuck in a local maxima where you think you're being more productive, but you're not seeing the bigger picture of what could be possible.

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lanza ◴[06 Apr 23 22:14 UTC] No.35475260[source]▶
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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1. phendrenad2 ◴[06 Apr 23 23:48 UTC] No.35476149[source]▶
Exactly right, people are very confident that they need a non-abstracted build system, and that it needs to be replaced every N years. I'm calling that into question, and people are confidently telling me I'm wrong, without the ability to explain why. So your link is very appropriate.
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2. palata ◴[07 Apr 23 09:15 UTC] No.35479755[source]▶
For the same reason someone creates a new programming language every second day: some people find it interesting, some people like to learn new languages, and sometimes a new language actually brings something really valuable.

Is it worth putting those resources into a new build system? Apparently Facebook thinks so. You don't have to agree, you can use Visual Studio.

It just seems like you say "if I don't care about build systems, nobody should".

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3. phendrenad2 ◴[09 Apr 23 18:52 UTC] No.35505363[source]▶
Well, at the top-level of this comment section I see people cheering this on, and people excited to try this out in their own. I don't think they all work at Facebook, so maybe they should be closer to me than Facebook on this matter.