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subsubzero ◴[] No.35461974[source]
Congrats Dang, you have done a wonderful job so far and moderate one of the most fantastic online communities out there. I am sure most of the job feels somewhat thankless but I want to let you know I(and many many other users on this site) appreciate your hard work and dedication.
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codeddesign ◴[] No.35462773[source]
If by “finest” you mean a Reddit mob mentality for tech, then yes I completely agree with this statement.
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dang ◴[] No.35463131[source]
What do you think we could do differently? Serious question.

I don't like the mob thing either but it's how large group dynamics on the internet work (by default). We try to mitigate it where we can but there's not a lot of knowledge about how to do that.

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2718i314 ◴[] No.35463371[source]
Reset karma for everyone. Your top karma people abuse their authority and you don't even notice. If a post is flagged, show who flagged it and for how long.
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dang ◴[] No.35463587[source]
High karma users don't gain any special authority or privilege.

There are a few places in the code that consider karma but IIRC it's never more than 500 (the downvote threshold). It's actually on my list to add more goodies for higher levels - maybe something like linkifying URLs in user profiles - but it would not have anything to do with authority on HN itself. We want the best comments and the best arguments to 'win', not skew things in insiders' favor.

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1. 2718i314 ◴[] No.35464449[source]
What makes you think karma is anything other than a popularity contest rather than the best argument? I've had comments downvoted to negative land without anyone commenting on my comment. If someone can't be bothered to state what they find wrong with a comment, then they shouldn't downvote. Such downvotes are basically trying to silence the speaker instead of addressing what they are saying.
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2. dang ◴[] No.35464528[source]
I don't think that.
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3. 2718i314 ◴[] No.35464584[source]
You said "We want the best comments and the best arguments to 'win', not skew things in insiders' favor." But only those that get to a certain threshold apparently.
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4. hiq ◴[] No.35464667[source]
I don't know about your comments, but if I see one which is easy to debunk by looking it up then I just downvote. There's no reason to be less lazy than the original poster just to prove them wrong.
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5. dang ◴[] No.35464675{3}[source]
"We want" means it's a goal to aspire to, not that it's already the case.

Not sure what you mean about thresholds.

6. mdp2021 ◴[] No.35464874[source]
> one which is easy to debunk

Yes, and I also do it, but very rarely and as an exception (and I am strongly in the position of "sniping weakens the system").

The issue is that it is possible that the censor may have misunderstood and missed something that was not clearly expressed.

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7. IanCal ◴[] No.35465464{3}[source]
Passing a threshold doesn't do anything for your own comments.
8. avindroth ◴[] No.35465652[source]
Just a guess - you may be downvoted not for exactly what you are saying, but how you are saying it. You may have valid criticism, but being rude is not met with welcome on HN (for good reasons).
9. hiq ◴[] No.35465802{3}[source]
> something that was not clearly expressed

I'd argue that in this case it's also in the interest of the community to downvote, since the comment adds more noise than it contributes to the discussion. In the end it's a ranking; if other comments are better worded and clearer, everything else being equal, they deserve to be higher up.