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subsubzero ◴[] No.35461974[source]
Congrats Dang, you have done a wonderful job so far and moderate one of the most fantastic online communities out there. I am sure most of the job feels somewhat thankless but I want to let you know I(and many many other users on this site) appreciate your hard work and dedication.
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codeddesign ◴[] No.35462773[source]
If by “finest” you mean a Reddit mob mentality for tech, then yes I completely agree with this statement.
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dang ◴[] No.35463131[source]
What do you think we could do differently? Serious question.

I don't like the mob thing either but it's how large group dynamics on the internet work (by default). We try to mitigate it where we can but there's not a lot of knowledge about how to do that.

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kolbe ◴[] No.35463179[source]
I consistently wonder why posts critical of HN-affiliated companies that have stats like upvotes per hour and number of comments that would theoretically make them the top story getting pushed off the front page.

Are there people whose upvotes count for more than others? Or are these actively suppressed? Either way, it makes it hard to have important/robust conversations when the people seeing them gets suppressed

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dang ◴[] No.35463232[source]
I'm afraid I don't understand the first bit - but in case this is what you meant: we definitely don't moderate HN to suppress criticism of YC-funded startups. That's actually the #1 thing of all things we don't do. There's tons of past explanation at https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... but the short version is that we know the community's good will is the only value HN has, so we try never to do anything that would damage that.

Re the second bit: there aren't any accounts whose upvotes count for more, but if accounts upvote too many bad* comments and/or get involved in voting rings, we sometimes make their votes not count anymore.

* By "bad" I mean bad relative to HN's intended purpose as defined here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Relative to that, "bad" means snark, flamewar, ideological battle, etc. — all the things that zap intellectual curiosity.

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1. MacsHeadroom ◴[] No.35463272[source]
This makes me think twice about upvoting dying comments that I think are constructive but just happen to go against popular consensus.

I have a lot of karma and an account over a decade old. So I probably have nothing to worry about. But is agreeing with comments killed by down vote really a red flag?

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2. dang ◴[] No.35463277[source]
Your account's fine and the posts you've been upvoting (I took a quick look) seem fine. What we're really trying to avoid is garden-variety flamewar.

> is agreeing with comments killed by down vote really a red flag?

On the contrary, that's a good contribution and we hope everyone will do it when good comments (that don't break the site guideline) have been unfairly downvoted.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

p.s. It's always the good users who worry about these things!

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3. MacsHeadroom ◴[] No.35463295[source]
Okay, I replied before you edited your comment to add the bit about what constitutes a "bad" comment. I definitely don't upvote those comments. :)

Thanks, dang.

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4. dang ◴[] No.35463322{3}[source]
Sorry - I'm a compulsive self-editor and I have to see the post in 'reality' before I can tell what's wrong with it. I have the delay setting in my profile set to 1 minute but more is not practical.
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5. jacquesm ◴[] No.35463358{4}[source]
> Sorry - I'm a compulsive self-editor and I have to see the post in 'reality' before I can tell what's wrong with it.

I have the exact same thing. I check a comment three times, it looks fine. Hit 'reply', the page refreshes and I spot a whole raft of things that are wrong with it. Very frustrating. Maybe a 'preview' button would help?

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6. dang ◴[] No.35463694{5}[source]
The 'delay' setting is there for this (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html) - not sure if that suits you or not. Everyone seems to have a slightly different way of working.