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sillysaurusx ◴[] No.35393782[source]
On the legal front, I’ve been working with counsel to draft a counterclaim to Meta’s DMCA against llama-dl. (GPT-4 is surprisingly capable, but I’m talking to a few attorneys: https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1641841064800600070?s=6...)

An anonymous HN user named L pledged $200k for llama-dl’s legal defense: https://twitter.com/theshawwn/status/1641804013791215619?s=6...

This may not seem like much vs Meta, but it’s enough to get the issue into the court system where it can be settled. The tweet chain has the details.

The takeaway for you is that you’ll soon be able to use LLaMA without worrying that Facebook will knock you offline for it. (I wouldn’t push your luck by trying to use it for commercial purposes though.)

Past discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35288415

I’d also like to take this opportunity to thank all of the researchers at MetaAI for their tremendous work. It’s because of them that we have access to such a wonderful model in the first place. They have no say over the legal side of things. One day we’ll all come together again, and this will just be a small speedbump in the rear view mirror.

EDIT: Please do me a favor and skip ahead to this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35393615

It's from jart, the author of the PR the submission points to. I really had no idea that this was a de facto Show HN, and it's terribly rude to post my comment in that context. I only meant to reassure everyone that they can freely hack on llama, not make a huge splash and detract from their moment on HN. (I feel awful about that; it's wonderful to be featured on HN, and no one should have to share their spotlight when it's a Show HN. Apologies.)

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sheeshkebab ◴[] No.35393848[source]
All models trained on public data need to be made public. As it is their outputs are not copyrightable, it’s not a stretch to say models are public domain.
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1. __turbobrew__ ◴[] No.35407677[source]
Aggregating and organizing public knowledge is a fundamentally valuable action which many companies make their business off of.

If I create a website for tracking real estate trends in my area — which is public information — should I not be able to sell that information?

Similarly if a consulting company analyzes public market macro trends are they not allowed to sell that information?

Just because the information which is being aggregated and organized is public does not necessarily mean that the output product should be in the public.