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oliwarner ◴[] No.35323842[source]
I left Windows in a hail of Vista bugs, over a decade ago. I've seen it get worse and worse in that time, both in UX rot and anti-consumer "features".

I'm almost impressed with what people willingly put up with.

Not here to eulogize over what I moved to, but I think it's important people consider why they're still using Windows. It's not your friend.

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0x2c8 ◴[] No.35324043[source]
I share the same sentiment.

The other day I was frustrated with several Linux quirks my laptop was experiencing and decided to give Windows 11 + WSL2 a try.

The sheer amount of bloat, sneaky privacy settings, ads, clunky UI etc. literally make Windows unusable. I was willing to put up with the switch (leveraging WSL2), but the entire operating system feels like a browser with toolbars from the 2000s.

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heresie-dabord ◴[] No.35325198[source]
WSL is an "embrace-extend-extinguish" feature.[1] It isn't good enough to be Linux, but it's good enough to draw people to make the change that you did.

An operating system should boot my computer and give me access to my hardware on my terms. Full stop.

Any exfiltration of telemetry about my use of the OS without my uncoerced consent is a much worse quirk than any bug I have ever encountered in Linux.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

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1. TimTheTinker ◴[] No.35331457[source]
Microsoft built WSL because software development and SaaS servers were moving inexorably towards *nix, and Windows was bleeding developers and MSDN subscribers. It was a 'stop the bleeding' move, not an EEE play. They needed to keep corporate developers on Windows, and give IT departments a good answer for "we need Linux support" that didn't involve a MS license count drop. Windows-oriented IT departments also appreciate being able to support developers who need Linux without having to add support for another OS.

There may even be some developers who prefer WSL on Windows over Linux, especially at work. When Group Policy turns off all the adware/spyware and annoyances in Windows 11 Enterprise, it isn't quite as horrible of an experience as it is at home.