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oliwarner ◴[] No.35323842[source]
I left Windows in a hail of Vista bugs, over a decade ago. I've seen it get worse and worse in that time, both in UX rot and anti-consumer "features".

I'm almost impressed with what people willingly put up with.

Not here to eulogize over what I moved to, but I think it's important people consider why they're still using Windows. It's not your friend.

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0x2c8 ◴[] No.35324043[source]
I share the same sentiment.

The other day I was frustrated with several Linux quirks my laptop was experiencing and decided to give Windows 11 + WSL2 a try.

The sheer amount of bloat, sneaky privacy settings, ads, clunky UI etc. literally make Windows unusable. I was willing to put up with the switch (leveraging WSL2), but the entire operating system feels like a browser with toolbars from the 2000s.

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heresie-dabord ◴[] No.35325198[source]
WSL is an "embrace-extend-extinguish" feature.[1] It isn't good enough to be Linux, but it's good enough to draw people to make the change that you did.

An operating system should boot my computer and give me access to my hardware on my terms. Full stop.

Any exfiltration of telemetry about my use of the OS without my uncoerced consent is a much worse quirk than any bug I have ever encountered in Linux.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...

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1. tracker1 ◴[] No.35328031[source]
I see it as the opposite in practice... I've now worked at 3 different companies (Windows/.Net shops) since WSL has been available where most dev work is actually in WSL, and deployed to Linux servers. And even grumblings about wanting to switch full dev to Linux and abandoning Windows altogether for at least dev work. Current job, the IT security guys are already dogfooding Linux...

It's an exfiltration path in practice, from what I've seen far more than an ingratiation path, despite what MS's intentions may have been. Once you get devs able to spin up a DB via Docker in under a minute vs. the desktop installs, refresh/update, etc... it's a path away from MS.