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PrimeMcFly ◴[] No.35323525[source]
I don't want anything, any type of news being pushed by my OS. It simply isn't it's job. Maybe, as an option or optional add-on, but not the way MS does it.

I use 10 now, as locked down and 'fixed' as I was able to make it (custom ISO via NTLite with a bunch of crap removed and some fixes steamrolled in), but really I look forward to ditching it altogether - which is a shame. For all the MS hate in the OSS community, I always thought Windows did a lot of stuff well (when it was good at least).

The telemetry, changing things for the sake of changing things and forced crap constantly being added is enough. I'm so in love with awesomewm at this point, and the fact that I can customize and program every part of my UI, allowing me to have something absolutely perfect and tailor made.

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midoridensha ◴[] No.35324087[source]
>I don't want anything, any type of news being pushed by my OS. It simply isn't it's job.

Yes, it is. The job of a proprietary OS is whatever that company says it is. If it's shoveling annoying ads to users, that's its job, and having annoying ads is a very sensible thing in a proprietary OS since the company is driven by profit, and they can make more profit by including lots of annoying ads. If you don't like the product your vendor has sold you, then you should choose a different vendor. A Free OS that doesn't come from a company with a profit motive won't have this same problem.

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alkonaut ◴[] No.35324131[source]
The whole "just go elsewhere" idea doesn't really work in a total monopoly like Microsoft has on desktop OSes for some use cases.

There is not, and has never been an alternative to windows for all use cases. Most notably: a gaming rig (One of few remaining use cases for stationary home PCs these days, so perhaps the most relevant for the idea of the Microsoft monopoly on the desktop). If you want to reply that Linux is a perfectly usable OS for a gaming rig these days then please reconsider. It's just not.

I actually don't understand how Microsoft reasons around these things. There is zero way that these news links actually "pay for themselves" in income vs customer alienation. There must be something else to it.

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1. trinsic2 ◴[] No.35327879[source]
I hear this a lot with this generation and I think its misguided. If you really want to support, or not support something, you will find a way to make it happen.

Complaining or justifying why you have to do something that doesn't give you choice is a victim's way of thinking.

If you want the world to continue to become less free, keep blaming the world for your choices.

Your choices, good or bad, determine the world that we all live in together. It's up to each individual to make right choices for this world to change.

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2. alkonaut ◴[] No.35336668[source]
Not sure which generation you refer to, I'm pushing 50... I really don't want to use what games I play to make a statement about where I want computing or computers to go. I'd happily use Linux if it solved my problem better than a proprietary system. But I'm sure not going to use Linux because the other system is proprietary.
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3. trinsic2 ◴[] No.35341172[source]
I don't know if that justifies using software that restrict peoples freedom.
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4. alkonaut ◴[] No.35341369{3}[source]
I mean I make proprietary software for a living (as do, I assume, a huge fraction of people commenting on HN). For a lot of use cases I prefer proprietary to open. I have zero moral questions about using my iPhone or Windows desktop and I consider anyone who tries to use open software as a moral imperative do be fooling themselves and wasting their time.

With that out of the way I think it's completely irrelevant for the original discussion. Game developers are going to make games for the biggest platforms. So if you want to play the most titles, you choose the bigger platform.

Yes, so long as people keep using windows, the games will keep coming to windows . But I'm not going to waste my time crusading against that in order to maybe see Linux be a more viable gaming platform in two decades. Life is just to short. I'm not enjoying Linux on the desktop much to begin with, so in my case the game issue isn't really the deciding factor. For a lot of gamers it probably is, though.