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PrimeMcFly ◴[] No.35323525[source]
I don't want anything, any type of news being pushed by my OS. It simply isn't it's job. Maybe, as an option or optional add-on, but not the way MS does it.

I use 10 now, as locked down and 'fixed' as I was able to make it (custom ISO via NTLite with a bunch of crap removed and some fixes steamrolled in), but really I look forward to ditching it altogether - which is a shame. For all the MS hate in the OSS community, I always thought Windows did a lot of stuff well (when it was good at least).

The telemetry, changing things for the sake of changing things and forced crap constantly being added is enough. I'm so in love with awesomewm at this point, and the fact that I can customize and program every part of my UI, allowing me to have something absolutely perfect and tailor made.

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midoridensha ◴[] No.35324087[source]
>I don't want anything, any type of news being pushed by my OS. It simply isn't it's job.

Yes, it is. The job of a proprietary OS is whatever that company says it is. If it's shoveling annoying ads to users, that's its job, and having annoying ads is a very sensible thing in a proprietary OS since the company is driven by profit, and they can make more profit by including lots of annoying ads. If you don't like the product your vendor has sold you, then you should choose a different vendor. A Free OS that doesn't come from a company with a profit motive won't have this same problem.

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alkonaut ◴[] No.35324131[source]
The whole "just go elsewhere" idea doesn't really work in a total monopoly like Microsoft has on desktop OSes for some use cases.

There is not, and has never been an alternative to windows for all use cases. Most notably: a gaming rig (One of few remaining use cases for stationary home PCs these days, so perhaps the most relevant for the idea of the Microsoft monopoly on the desktop). If you want to reply that Linux is a perfectly usable OS for a gaming rig these days then please reconsider. It's just not.

I actually don't understand how Microsoft reasons around these things. There is zero way that these news links actually "pay for themselves" in income vs customer alienation. There must be something else to it.

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1. TheRealDunkirk ◴[] No.35326189[source]
> Most notably: a gaming rig

You know that feeling when you move from Windows to Mac, and suddenly realize that there is a paradigm of personal computing that doesn't involve multi-gigabyte updates to the operating system every other week? Maybe you don't, but it exists. There is a similar experience when moving to Playstation (or Xbox) for gaming, and suddenly noticing how much time you were spending in keeping video, mouse, and keyboard drivers up to date, and fiddling with all the settings that ultimately make little difference in how games actually play. I know, I know. "Mouse and keyboard." "Framerate." "Mods." I don't care. Moving to a console has been liberating. Since the advent of getting everything running at 60 FPS on the current-gen models, there's really nothing holding it back. Also, as an outstanding bonus: no cheaters in online games!

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2. green-eclipse ◴[] No.35326637[source]
I really, really wish I wasn't so terrible at using a console controller for FPS games. I would love to play COD and all the others on PS or Xbox, but I'm awful. It would be so much better.
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3. TheRealDunkirk ◴[] No.35326914[source]
I'm not going to lie; it took a long time to readjust, but I have, and I don't even think about it any more. The key is that everyone else is using the same thing, so it works out. I've worked my way up to maxing out the sensitivity in Battlefield 1, and I can usually place in the top 25%. To be fair, it takes a long time to really dial in your snap 180's with a mouse too. The no cheating thing helped me get over the hump. I was pretty tired of ALWAYS having at least one hacker in PC Battlefield.
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4. lenkite ◴[] No.35327085[source]
"... and suddenly noticing how much time you were spending in keeping video, mouse, and keyboard drivers up to date..."

Honestly - has this ever been a problem on Windows ? After the initial setup, I am done. I occasionally update the Video Drivers - but thats once in 6 months. Only if you change the keyboard, mouse hardware, would you need to run through the driver update process again and that too - only if Windows did not auto-detect and install the driver.

Source: experience in maintaining a dozen family windows installs on PC/laptops.

5. alkonaut ◴[] No.35327093{3}[source]
If you play on a reasonable server then hackers should be a non-issue. Any reasonable server is one you can return to every day and where you know there is a sane admin on, 100% of the time. That obviously all went out the window when they trashed community servers in BF (and some multiplayer games don't have stable servers to this day - which means I'll probably never play them).
6. ntauthority ◴[] No.35328402[source]
Quite a lot of recent console FPS games just let you plug in a USB mouse/keyboard and you get matched with PC players (or other console users who use the same input method) instead.

CoD has supported this since their 2019 release, for example.