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DavidPiper ◴[] No.34935663[source]
I had a large sum of money scammed from my credit card a few weeks ago - a single transaction to Upwork. I'd never heard of them before this month.

I know it's not the same issue, and the creds obviously came from somewhere else, but the amount of fishy reports I found just searching them here on Hacker News means I will never go near them.

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madaxe_again ◴[] No.34935723[source]
It’s possibly related, however.

The likely cause for their ban is going to be KYC getting around to review and money laundering regs/insurers demanding a certain course of action - cessation and seizure, possibly a report to relevant LE.

Platforms like eBay and upwork - anything where there’s a transfer of money between two third parties - have an enormous duty of responsibility around laundering and fraud, and even the slightest suspicion will result in a ban.

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throwbadubadu ◴[] No.34935802[source]
Result in a ban and just keep that amount of money? They have to deliver it somewhere, so that both of the affected sites can clarify, object.. or at least learn and understand what this is about??
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londons_explore ◴[] No.34935818[source]
They generally don't 'seize' the money... They 'freeze' the money...

And then won't release it without a court order.

However it is typically pretty easy to get a court order, because they won't fight against you in court. They just want a court to tell them to release the money, because then any money laundering isn't their fault - they're just doing what the court asked.

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1. madaxe_again ◴[] No.34935869[source]
Getting a court order can be hard, if the court has any reasonable doubt, and you end up with them treating the freeze as grounds for reasonable doubt and then require absurd degrees of evidence to the contrary. It’s particularly hard if you’re based somewhere tricky, and the court wants you in London, in person, next Tuesday.