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    66 points colanderman | 15 comments | | HN request time: 1.026s | source | bottom
    1. Aunche ◴[] No.34889854[source]
    How can they get paid 50% less when share prices drop by 35%? Can't get past the paywall.
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    2. ska ◴[] No.34889872[source]
    I assume because equity is more than 50% of total comp. Or was.
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    4. umeshunni ◴[] No.34889888[source]
    Amazon does a weird thing where the mix of stock to cash varies by tenure. So, someone might have been at 85% cash 15% stock in year 1, but are now at 50% cash, 50% stock. So they're getting more stock now than in earlier years.
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    5. DMell ◴[] No.34889898[source]
    https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Ffortune.com%2F2023%2F0...
    6. loeg ◴[] No.34889908[source]
    Sure, but even if stock was 100% of their comp, and the stock went down 35%, they're only down 35% -- not 50%. That's the point GP is making.
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    7. ojbyrne ◴[] No.34889913[source]
    Yeah, it's a deceptive headline. In the article it says "For those who have been with the online behemoth the longest, up to 50% of their total income is balanced on market outcomes."

    So if it goes to zero. Though presumably people would lose their salary then too.

    8. kilburn ◴[] No.34889932[source]
    The article claims:

    > The past two years have not been as rosy for Amazon’s stock price. It fell 2.3% in 2021 and a whopping 49.5% last year.

    This explains the headline. I guess that the figures depend on the specific dates you pick?

    9. ntonozzi ◴[] No.34889974[source]
    Amazon emplyees actually have a negative cash salary that they pay back with equity they sell.
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    10. amir734jj ◴[] No.34889982[source]
    Can you please elaborate more? I am confused
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    11. ripper1138 ◴[] No.34890001{3}[source]
    That was a joke my friend
    12. MSM ◴[] No.34890046{3}[source]
    It's gone down 35% in the last year. It's down 50+% off its peak.
    13. Macha ◴[] No.34890065[source]
    If equity was 100% of total comp, and shares dropped by 35%, the most total comp could drop by is 35%. The smaller the share of equity, the smaller the percentage of total that drop would be
    14. weeeeelp ◴[] No.34890129[source]
    non-paywall link: https://archive.is/Wgxug
    15. xerxesaa ◴[] No.34891285[source]
    Because Amazon actually assumes a 15% growth in stock price every year. So even if the stock stays flat, you make 15% less. I used to be a manager there.