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“How America took out the Nord Stream pipeline”

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688 points hunglee2 | 10 comments | 08 Feb 23 12:50 UTC | HN request time: 0.019s | source | bottom
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Laaas ◴[08 Feb 23 20:20 UTC] No.34714370[source]▶
It is bewildering how many here are against this post staying up; no matter whether it's true or not, it's an interesting article! If you feel it is not true, why take it down rather than simply state your opinion in the comments? Do we not have the freedom to discuss and form our own opinions about it?
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1. officehero ◴[08 Feb 23 21:36 UTC] No.34715589[source]▶
As a former resident in Russia I'm shocked at how all state controlled media from Russia has been completely censored in the west. I understand why it's done (bcs it breeds conspiracies etc) but it's not for free because now people don't get any 'alternative' view on the matter. Censorship is a tricky thing
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2. reducesuffering ◴[08 Feb 23 21:44 UTC] No.34715720[source]▶
> all state controlled media from Russia has been completely censored in the west.

What ridiculous hyperbole. My RT.com is working just fine. Medvedev and Russian Government account is still on Twitter shouting garbage...

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3. 0xDEF ◴[08 Feb 23 22:14 UTC] No.34716185[source]▶
The EU has asked Twitter and Facebook to not allow direct linking to Russian state media. However I can still access TASS, Russia Today, and all other Russian state media.

The US has no such censorship against Russian media.

4. nostromo123 ◴[08 Feb 23 22:34 UTC] No.34716492[source]▶
rt.com does not work in Austria.
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5. reducesuffering ◴[08 Feb 23 23:39 UTC] No.34717365{3}[source]▶
That's unfortunate domains are being blocked in your country, but not relevant to GP's outlandish comment.

Let's break this down...

> all state controlled media from Russia has been completely censored in the west.

> all

No.

> completely censored

No.

> in the west

No.

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6. officehero ◴[09 Feb 23 00:07 UTC] No.34717690{4}[source]▶
You're right I stand corrected. I'm mainly following these things on YouTube and there the Russian state point of view is actively suppressed. Ironically I've become more pro-Ukraine the more I've learnt about the Russian state view, still can't get over how fast things went downhill.
7. mlindner ◴[09 Feb 23 01:50 UTC] No.34718699[source]▶
There are plenty of "alternatives" that are not censored. There's media all over the middle east and asia that's not friendly to the US that isn't censored. It makes perfect sense to censor the aggressor in a war because of course they're only going to say things that benefit themselves, especially in a country that's passed laws against the criticism of the war.

All you're really arguing for here is that the west should openly allow Russian propaganda to infiltrate minds of the general public.

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8. che_shirecat ◴[09 Feb 23 03:22 UTC] No.34719361[source]▶
what makes Russian propaganda different from US propaganda?
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9. chii ◴[09 Feb 23 04:22 UTC] No.34719715{3}[source]▶
russian propaganda benefits russia, at the cost of the US.
10. kornhole ◴[09 Feb 23 04:28 UTC] No.34719757[source]▶
Yes the state aligned MSM platforms censor or manipulate the news to their aims. Those platforms are all that some people know. Some places where people in the west can find news alternative to the MSM narrative are: Odysee, Rumble, Bitchute, antiwar.com, thegrayzone, fair.org, commondreams, truthout.org, consortiumnews. Please comment with more here to spread the word.