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r721 ◴[] No.34712869[source]
>The White House on Wednesday dismissed a blog post by a U.S. investigative journalist alleging the United States was behind explosions of the Nord Stream gas pipelines as "utterly false and complete fiction."

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>"This is utterly false and complete fiction," said Adrienne Watson, a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council. Spokespeople for the CIA and State Department said the same.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-...

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steponlego ◴[] No.34712923[source]
The problem is they lie all day, every day, even about trivial stuff that’s easily verified. This looks more like an admission of guilt.
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gs17 ◴[] No.34712964[source]
Is there anything they could say or do, without providing undeniable evidence someone else did it that you would believe? If "we didn't do it" reads as "we did it", what do you expect them to do, not respond at all? That would be more suspicious to me.
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Apocryphon ◴[] No.34712984[source]
Sounds like they should provide undeniable evidence then!
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macintux ◴[] No.34713005[source]
Even if they had it, they likely couldn’t share it for security reasons.

And of course, proving innocence is effectively impossible without proving someone else did it.

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Apocryphon ◴[] No.34713053[source]
Sure. I'm just curious about who did it and hey if Hersh is providing one narrative, it's better than the lack of answers or even any attempt at an investigatory effort from any party, whether NATO or Russian.
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steponlego ◴[] No.34713379[source]
The lack of real concern on all parties about trying to figure out who did it is essentially proof of who did it. You have multiple PMs and FMs saying in the days afterward that "everybody knows" who did it. Who did it? If it was Russia and "everybody knew" then that'd have entered the press.
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1. Apocryphon ◴[] No.34713443[source]
What if they all did it as some sort of gentleman’s agreement
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2. hef19898 ◴[] No.34713806[source]
Then it was Switzerland. Nobody suspects them, everybody was fine with Nord Stream gone but there was no agreement on who gets to blow it up. So Switzerland volunteered. Proof me wrong!
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3. Apocryphon ◴[] No.34713910[source]
Close. It was not the Swiss proper, but specifically the Papal Swiss Guard acting under the command of the Holy See. Since it is not a nation-state like Switzerland, this adds another additional layer of neutrality and deniability to satisfy all parties involved.
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4. hef19898 ◴[] No.34713937{3}[source]
And the Swiss guard is made up entirely of single men with top notch training! Of course it was them!