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2OEH8eoCRo0 ◴[] No.34712639[source]
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Where is the evidence?

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1. partiallypro ◴[] No.34712733[source]
The blog post is mostly a sea of text with no real citations and loose quotes. The author, though a famed journalist for his breaking of a story 50 years ago, has also made claims recently to defend dictators such as Assad; even going so far as to claim the US was going to fake Bin Laden's dead by dragging his body back to Afghanistan from Pakistan to pretend like he died in a missile strike. His reasoning for this? Well, basically apparently flying below the deck and stealth helicopters are impossible.

People need to come to grips that people can slowly become kooks over time (or maybe they were always crazy, but did one good thing and now have clout.) Snowden, Greenwald have made similar kooky remarks of late defending bad actors all over. It's bizarre, but not unusual.

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2. sudosysgen ◴[] No.34712813[source]
The journalist also broke the Abu Ghraib story less than 20 years ago.
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3. partiallypro ◴[] No.34712849[source]
No he didn't, the AP did based on a whistleblower (followed by a 60 Minutes report.) He may have reported on it, but he didn't break it. He did however make a claim not reported by the anyone else that the US soldiers raped children, which no one else ever reported, then offered no evidence of said claim.
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4. miguelazo ◴[] No.34712856[source]
Exposing uncomfortable truths about the US/NATO dirty war in Syria hardly constitutes “defending Assad.”

Highly recommend the entire LRB series. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v38/n01/seymour-m.-hersh/mil...

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5. partiallypro ◴[] No.34712966[source]
He actually did though. Saying the Syrian rebels gassed themselves (common Assad talking point [https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v35/n24/seymour-m.-hersh/who...] parroted by people like Tulsi Gabbard/Tucker/etc), and also said the Pentagon had a secret agreement with Assad and Putin to undermine Obama. He also offered absolutely no evidence of any of this.
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6. miguelazo ◴[] No.34713116{3}[source]
The OPCW leaks confirmed that the “rebels” staged gas attacks. That has never been refuted by anyone— only attacks against the messengers, similar to yours.
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7. partiallypro ◴[] No.34713198{4}[source]
Except the OPCW says themselves they have grounds to believe Assad did it. Any "leaks" were part of an ongoing investigation, and not conclusive. I'm absolutely baffled how naive people are in defense of people like Assad & Putin.
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8. sudosysgen ◴[] No.34713253{3}[source]
Do you have a source for that? Here is DW claiming he was the first one who disclosed what went on in detail:

https://www.dw.com/en/problem-is-not-interrogation-its-war-i...

> US investigative journalist Seymour Hersh disclosed the torture scandal of Abu Ghraib 10 years ago.

> He was the first to describe in detail what was happening in Abu Ghraib, quoting from the Taguba Report, a secret, internal investigation by the US army about atrocities committed against the prisoners.

The article goes on to discuss how even though second hand accounts of abuses already existed, he was the first to get access to and disclose the report, giving a detailed first party account and giving proof of chain of command involvement for the first time.

9. miguelazo ◴[] No.34716909{5}[source]
The original investigators called BS. Then the OPCW worked to silence them and brought in chumps who would stick to the script. Their latest report only confirms that it was a coverup, doubling down on fake “evidence” provided by the white helmets. https://strategic-culture.org/news/2023/02/06/in-douma-cover...