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vishnugupta ◴[] No.34491814[source]
I worked on Amazon Payments systems for quite some time back in the day. We took pride in being the best payment processors. Had direct connections with card networks, banks and what not. We even launched a PayPal competitor[1]. They launched a Square like device for physical retailers[2]. They invested some serious money in building and maintaining all of that.

However going by this news seems like Amazon has more or less given up on their payments ambitions. Could be also due to recent layoffs. This is a big news. Maybe Amazon wants to focus on being good at few things instead of running hundreds of experiments.

Edit: References.

[1] https://pay.amazon.com

[2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2015/10/30/amazon-kills...

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morpheuskafka ◴[] No.34493001[source]
I'm not surprised that they are giving up on Amazon Pay, as that never seemed to get much traction or customer recognition.

However, I am very surprised that they are abandoning their own first-party payments to Stripe. Don't you all already have the very best rates possible, directly negotiated by every bank? In other countries Amazon has even threatened to stop accepting cards because they couldn't negotiate the fees they wanted, and they are about the only merchant big enough to dare doing that.

I'm sure they won't be paying Stripe the standard 2.9%, but still--what value does Amazon get out of this? Stripe is supposed to make payments easy from both a coding and business perspective for developers. Everything Stripe does, from card acceptance to fraud handling to UX to ACH payouts Amazon already has working at large scale.

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1. babypuncher ◴[] No.34496805[source]
Google Pay, Amazon Pay, and other attempts by big companies to shoehorn their way into this market have to contend with the fact that PayPayl came first, and is "good enough" for the vast majority of people.

The real innovation in this space seems to have come from companies replacing more layers in your typical e-commerce stack, like Shopify.

For me, Apple Pay is the only "new" payment processor that actually competes with PayPal because Apple made the user experience a lot faster and more convenient.

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2. AuthError ◴[] No.34497955[source]
google pay has decent presence in APAC